NVIDIA ‘Ampere’ 8nm Graphics Cards

Perfect_Chaos · 2 Sep 2020 at 06:09

random_matt said:
Confirmed no pre-orders this time, from Nvidia themselves anyway. That sucks, guess I won't be sleeping, don't want to miss out.

Some still have their cards to reveal, like MSI, so they won't go up for sale until they have done their showing first i guess anyway, at least those models anyway

mcast · 2 Sep 2020 at 06:25

I'm upgrading from a 970 to a 3070, am I right in saying the maximum TDP will go from 145w to 220w? Anyone know the idle TDP on the 3070?

random_matt · 2 Sep 2020 at 06:33

Azrael1 said:
i would say more about the consoles. At this price range many ppl will stick with the pc instead. I know this has killed any urge to get a release day ps5 or Xbox x series. It doesn’t help there’s no release exclusive I want to play either

Just buy one next year from the rain forest and return in 30 days. I'm only interested in HZD 2.

beany_bot · 2 Sep 2020 at 06:34

random_matt said:
Just buy one next year from Amazon and return in 30 days. I'm only interested in HZD 2.

Firstly you aren't allowed to mention competitors.
Secondly what you are suggesting is illegal.
Thirdly what you are suggesting is morally reprehensible.

Chuk_Chuk · 2 Sep 2020 at 06:36

Dempsey22 said:
Sorry if I missed this but when will reviewers get their hands on these cards ?

Will it be from the 17th or will it be earlier? 3080 has grabbed my attention for sure.

The rumour was they already had cards but no drivers. No idea when the NDA lifts though

Nutty_Death · 2 Sep 2020 at 06:43

Interested to see how founders performs alongside CPU air coolers and whether there's anyway to change fan configuration to mitigate against pulling hot air into the CPU. Such as exhausting out of the front.

Mark1989 · 2 Sep 2020 at 06:47

I can't find the power requirements for the 3070 even on Nvidia only bloody website for it.

Any one else been able too? I just think if it's true and it gives 2080/2080Ti levels that's a big upgrade over my 1070

Dirk Diggler · 2 Sep 2020 at 06:48

Kill_Phil said:
Pricing seems to suggest to me that they're worried about amds offerings which can only be good news for us consumers!

The wall of silence seems to suggest that it's AMD who are worried about AMD's offerings.

justwondering · 2 Sep 2020 at 06:53

Legend said:
Not £600 but £300? No. For a start, no one is going to sell one at that, irrespective of what someone might want to pay. As I mention, even a 980Ti has a second hand value of around £100.

Sadly based on the 3070 pricing, a used RTX 2080 ti is worth £300 to £350ish, why would or should anyone pay anymore? Unfortunate for the 2080ti owners.

Given the two options... A used 2080ti with no real transferable warranty (excluding evga) for £469 or a brand new rtx 3070 with 3 year warranty for £469, which one would you buy?

If not the rtx 2080ti at £469, how much would you pay? Considering the RTX 3070 option, surely it has to be a fair chunk less, maybe knock off at least £100?

Admittedly less than 24 hours ago, the suggestion that a rtx 2080ti value would be anything close to £300 to £350 was pretty much laughable....

Harsh price drop on the value of a 2080ti, but the cat is out of the bag.

IvanDobskey · 2 Sep 2020 at 06:55

Pretty glad I sat out Turing

XeNoNF50 · 2 Sep 2020 at 06:57

EastCoastHandle said:
To those who still bought a 2080ti for $1200 after being told it would be a paper weight once ampere was released I ask you...Can you still afford it to go 3090 without having to sell 2080ti?

A bit of an unfair question to owners since the 2080ti is not a paper weight. It still performs the same as it did 2 days ago! It's always the case that the higher you pay for something the greater the value will fall. I guess as long as someone wasn't relying on cheap credit to purchase it two years ago they've probably got enough in the bank two years later to buy a 3090 if they wish to.

Richdog · 2 Sep 2020 at 07:01

XeNoNF50 said:
A bit of an unfair question to owners since the 2080ti is not a paper weight. It still performs the same as it did 2 days ago! It's always the case that the higher you pay for something the greater the value will fall. I guess as long as someone wasn't relying on cheap credit to purchase it two years ago they've probably got enough in the bank two years later to buy a 3090 if they wish to.

I think this can be summed up as:

1)Anyone who bought a 2080 Ti (or any expensive Turing card) recently made a TERRIBLE emotional purchasing decision, against all of the advice of the sensible people on forums advising to wait until next-gen was launched. True buyers remorse and completely avoidable.
2) Anyone who bought a 2080 Ti at launch and sold it a month or two ago for £1000 is laughing and can feel very satisfied with themselves.

That's basically the situation.

random_matt · 2 Sep 2020 at 07:01

beany_bot said:
Firstly you aren't allowed to mention competitors.
Secondly what you are suggesting is illegal.
Thirdly what you are suggesting is morally reprehensible.

Whoops, forgot about the first bit.
It is within their return policy, not illegal
Spare me your morality

Bacalhau · 2 Sep 2020 at 07:01

Mark1989 said:
I can't find the power requirements for the 3070 even on Nvidia only bloody website for it.

Any one else been able too? I just think if it's true and it gives 2080/2080Ti levels that's a big upgrade over my 1070

Yes, requires a 650W PSU:

https://www.nvidia.com/en-gb/geforce/graphics-cards/30-series/rtx-3070/

Scroll down to specs.

Dirk Diggler · 2 Sep 2020 at 07:02

IvanDobskey said:
Pretty glad I sat out Turing

Jensen himself acknowledged the wait was shrewd.

deuse · 2 Sep 2020 at 07:03

Mark1989 said:
I can't find the power requirements for the 3070 even on Nvidia only bloody website for it.

Any one else been able too? I just think if it's true and it gives 2080/2080Ti levels that's a big upgrade over my 1070

Here is the 3090 https://www.nvidia.com/en-gb/geforce/graphics-cards/30-series/rtx-3090/

XeNoNF50 · 2 Sep 2020 at 07:04

Dirk Diggler said:
Jensen himself acknowledged the wait was shrewd.

I liked that bit - like he knew he sold everyone a turd last time

Richdog · 2 Sep 2020 at 07:09

XeNoNF50 said:
I liked that bit - like he knew he sold everyone a turd last time

Yup, he did indeed and I was a little surprised when he said "To all my 1080 Ti friends, it's now safe to upgrade". I doubt I'd have said that in his place.

Cooper · 2 Sep 2020 at 07:09

Not sure I like that cooling design of the Founders Edition, that top fan venting hot GPU air straight up towards the CPU, means air coolers are going to be sucking that hot air in to the CPU fan which must surely be a bad thing, if you have an AIO it probably won't matter, but If not, I can't see anything other than people seeing their CPU's run hotter.

azazl187 · 2 Sep 2020 at 07:10

do i wait for reviews or pull the trigger now to save having to wait too long?....