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If they have confidence in these cards they should have nothing to fear.
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NVIDIA ‘Ampere’ 8nm Graphics Cards
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If they have confidence in these cards they should have nothing to fear.
I'm not sure it's sensible from nV's POV. If you don't allow reviews until release day, then you guarantee (if you are nV) that you will get masses and masses of pre-orders from everyone terrified of FOMO.
Even people that aren't sure they want one will pre-order to just to be sure they can get one
If you have reviews coming into the mix, they might actually cause some people to stop and think if it's actually the card they need.
Given that nVidia is like Apple (and not like AMD), not having reviews until the very last minute might even be helpful.
Bottom line is, they will generate untold pre-orders on the strength of Jensen's demo and on their name and on the hype.
Reviewers might spoil the party!
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This will be my route I think, buy the 3080 now, reap the benefits for this winters gaming and move on to the Ti and take a couple £ hit.
I'm less worried now after seeing these guys opinion on VRAM (36mins onwards), I don't think it'll be an issue at all even at 4k for the foreseeable.
Considering the FE pricing is announced, the other cards I can't see changing too much.
If the 3080 is ~£650ish, the 3090 is £1400ish, and assuming the 3080Ti sits in the middle at £1000, if you lost like £150 on your 3080, you've spent a total of £1150, which might not be that far off a 3090 to be honest though right? Or maybe I'm being a bit blasé about the other ~£250ish or have the loss a bit off.
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On the vram debate I randomly found this.
Overall it does seem 10GB is fine (in the games tested) including for 4k gaming.
You can see Microsoft Flight Simulator results at 3:46mins. At 4k he recorded 9GB of usage.
Overall it does seem 10GB is fine (in the games tested) including for 4k gaming.
You can see Microsoft Flight Simulator results at 3:46mins. At 4k he recorded 9GB of usage.
Interesting, because they said, "This is something that warrants further investigation. We'll need to keep an eye on new games and check for things like stutter..."
What they didn't do is conclusively say that there won't be an issue, so it's odd that you would draw that conclusion from that video.
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That is another way of looking at it for sure, the over double price of the 3080 just for more VRAM and what will probably be 20% increase performance is what I can't get my head round for the 3090 though.
Same. It should be at least a few hours before pre order go live.Im hoping we get the reviews before the 17th, when they go on sale.
The other slight worry is that we don't have any next gen games/console ports to test yet.
Think whatever happens I will hold off until there is more info on vram usage in next gen games.
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As the guy agree's in the comments though, these are just cache'd numbers, not actual real world VRAM usage, it's hard to tell an actual requirement an individual game is using, like COD MW for example, just fill's straight up to 10.5GB because it's there, doesn't need it all though.
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Yeah maybe the VRAM thing isnt such an issue as first thought. However we know AIB and Super/Ti cards that follow will get a generous extra to entice the audience. It just seems a shame to have less of it right now when that bit more makes the card complete (for them times its going to be wanting it).
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Just want to check with you guy's also my 8700k@ 5.1 won't be a limiting factor with this card (3080)? I'd like PCI-E 4 but would rather not at this point, for now.
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I’m gonna be seeing charts in my sleep over the next few weeks!
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Well digital foundary show cased it on a 9900k so PCIE3 wasnt an issue that they mentioned.
I'm not sure it's sensible from nV's POV. If you don't allow reviews until release day, then you guarantee (if you are nV) that you will get masses and masses of pre-orders from everyone terrified of FOMO.
Even people that aren't sure they want one will pre-order to just to be sure they can get one
If you have reviews coming into the mix, they might actually cause some people to stop and think if it's actually the card they need.
Given that nVidia is like Apple (and not like AMD), not having reviews until the very last minute might even be helpful.
Bottom line is, they will generate untold pre-orders on the strength of Jensen's demo and on their name and on the hype.
Reviewers might spoil the party!
With DSR you can just return anyway.
I'm for sure going to aim to get a 3080 founders. If reviews don't hit till later and the 3090 is much better I'll just return my 3080 or better yet make a penny or two resale.[/QUOTE]
Yea, I am not happy it is only 10gb but I think I will be fine with it until the next gen cards come out. The worst case scenario I see is on a handful of games may need to drop one setting on textures. 99% of my Steam library will work without a sweat before I upgrade to a 4070/80 or whatever amd has at the time.
I think the theory is you're less likely to return something you've bought.
By buying it, you become invested in it, and only if there are serious problems would you go through the hassle of returning it.
If it's just "I'm not sure if I want this," then you're much more likely to keep it once you've bought it.
Vs reading reviews and not buying in the first place.
There's a whole branch of behavioural science dedicated to stuff like this.