NVIDIA ‘Ampere’ 8nm Graphics Cards

[chroniclard]

Those are popular 2018/2019 games that they have picked to fit their statement, but they are not the most demanding games around no PC. Just do a google to see which games use more than 4-6GB at 4k, because obviously they exist. This is to me a cost-saving exercise/compromise and balancing act designed as more of a short-term solution (in the grand scheme of things) until memory prices lower or improved variants are released.

If you don't agree with me then that is fine, but lets re-visit this topic in the next 6-12 months when the new bleeding-edge games are released and we see them running at 4k Ultra settings. I am confident we will start to see some limitations with 10GB and that owners of 3090's will show us games CACHING more than 10GB VRAM.

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[Azrael1]

Those are popular 2018/2019 games that they have picked to fit their statement, but they are not the most demanding games around no PC. Just do a google to see which games use more than 4-6GB at 4k, because obviously they exist. This is to me a cost-saving exercise/compromise and balancing act designed as more of a short-term solution (in the grand scheme of things) until memory prices lower or improved variants are released.

If you don't agree with me then that is fine, but lets re-visit this topic in the next 6-12 months when the new bleeding-edge games are released and we see them running at 4k Ultra settings. I am confident we will start to see some limitations with 10GB and that owners of 3090's will show us games using more than 10GB VRAM.

Pretty sure the cutting edge people will have moved to the new Super or Ti Variants by then so its a mute point. Looking at your sig spec I guess you run at 1080p or 1440p so I wouldn't worry too much. I mean whats the 4k or 38 ultrawide screen and 49 screen users pc gamers as a percentage overall ? a couple of percentage if that ? All of my friends game on 1080p or 1440p as the max and they are in their 40s.

 

[Greebo]

Pretty sure the cutting edge people will have moved to the new Super or Ti Variants by then so its a mute point. Looking at your sig spec I guess you run at 1080p or 1440p so I wouldn't worry too much. I mean whats the 4k or 38 ultrawide screen and 49 screen users pc gamers as a percentage overall ? a couple of percentage if that ? All of my friends game on 1080p or 1440p as the max and they are in their 40s.

Exactly. People who will be gaming at 4k max settings will likely be buying next years cards anyway.

 

[Richdog]

You into 4k gaming then on that 1660 super?

It's a temporary card until Ampere is released... I have decent a 4k gaming monitor and a decent 1440p monitor.

Pretty sure the cutting edge people will have moved to the new Super or Ti Variants by then so its a mute point. Looking at your sig spec I guess you run at 1080p or 1440p so I wouldn't worry too much. I mean whats the 4k or 38 ultrawide screen and 49 screen users pc gamers as a percentage overall ? a couple of percentage if that ? All of my friends game on 1080p or 1440p as the max and they are in their 40s.

Really... everyone who buys a 3080 10GB will "move on" to a Super or Ti in 6-12 months? When we all know the 3080 will sell by the bucketload and is being marketed as a 4k GPU? Illogical rubbish.

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[Brumboy]

Wondering if it's worth selling my 2080 for £300-£350 now. Buying the 3070 when it comes out.

Or wait until the Ti/Super variants come out next year and grab one of them, using my 2080 in the mean time.

The Ti/Super variants will be faster and have more memory which is appealing. But then the value of the 2080 will drop even lower probably? close to £250?

 

[Bindlestiff]

So given the current discussion is around 4K max settings and the lack of VRAM on a 3080 being a potential problem, is the 3080 considered overkill for 2560x1440 / 3440x1440?

 

[Azrael1]

It's a temporary card until Ampere is released... I have decent a 4k gaming monitor and a decent 1440p monitor.



Really... everyone who buys a 3080 10GB will "move on" to a Super or Ti in 6-12 months? When we all know the 3080 will sell by the bucketload? Illogical rubbish.


Words almost fail me if you think there is no point or value in spending time discussing a realistic potential problem or scenario with a new GPU release. Not that I'm surprised, mind.

You have seen the posts and how some ppl on this forum upgrade right ? Some love having the latest tech
I have no problems about selling my 3080 ( one of them or both of them if I buy 2 ) and moving to a super or Ti Variant. Some of the members here will even buying a 3090. Yeah I thought that might shock you ....................

 

[Stanners]

Sorry some you got a warning, fat fingered glitch by me!

 

[b0rn2sk8]

So given the current discussion is around 4K max settings and the lack of VRAM on a 3080 being a potential problem, is the 3080 considered overkill for 2560x1440 / 3440x1440?

Nothing is overkill


Let’s be realistic though, for those moaning about potential future games in a few years have forgotten that the card may not even be capable of running said yet to be released games maxed out at 4K at a decent frame rate anyway just like a 2080 may start to struggle with that criteria once the new tittles designed from the ground up to run on the new consoles start being released.

The new consoles only have 16gb total memory for both the system and graphics anyway so it’s not like game devs can suddenly go nuts either way.

 

[opethdisciple]

So given the current discussion is around 4K max settings and the lack of VRAM on a 3080 being a potential problem, is the 3080 considered overkill for 2560x1440 / 3440x1440?

That's what I'm contemplating.

But the issue is the 3070 doesn't offer next gen performance. Plus, I'm quite sure as time goes buy those games will get more and more demanding.

We need benchmarks.

 

[rchads89]

Sorry some you got a warning, fat fingered glitch by me!

no problem... i will leave this one out anyway

 

[Azrael1]

Nothing is overkill


Let’s be realistic though, for those moaning about potential future games in a few years have forgotten that the card may not even be capable of running said yet to be released games maxed out at 4K at a decent frame rate anyway just like a 2080 may start to struggle with that criteria once the new tittles designed from the ground up to run on the new consoles start being released.

I agree with nothing is overkill - but I do wonder how many ppl commenting not enough Vram have 4k Monitor or will ever get 4k monitors - Even when They do it could be years and years away that they buy one.

 

[rchads89]

I agree with nothing is overkill - but I do wonder how many ppl commenting not enough Vram have 4k Monitor or will ever get 4k monitors - Even when They do it could be years and years away that they buy one.

Exactly.

 

[Bravetart]

Sorry some you got a warning, fat fingered glitch by me!

I was a bit confused, don't remember insulting anyone, not my style

 

[b0rn2sk8]

I agree with nothing is overkill - but I do wonder how many ppl commenting not enough Vram have 4k Monitor or will ever get 4k monitors - Even when They do it could be years and years away that they buy one.

Yup, this. A monitor is normally a once in 5-8 year purchase. It’s far better to have one that does at least 144hz than 4K for gaming.

4K 144hz is a rich persons game and a 3080 isn’t going to keep up at that frame rate for long at all, if it can even do it now on the latest games (not talking esports none sense).

 

[willhub]

Nothing is overkill


Let’s be realistic though, for those moaning about potential future games in a few years have forgotten that the card may not even be capable of running said yet to be released games maxed out at 4K at a decent frame rate anyway just like a 2080 may start to struggle with that criteria once the new tittles designed from the ground up to run on the new consoles start being released.

The new consoles only have 16gb total memory for both the system and graphics anyway so it’s not like game devs can suddenly go nuts either way.

I'd say even at 1440P nothing is overkill, an example of that is a 3090 running that demo at 30fps at 1440p, looks almost like real life, but, at 30fps, I don't think you can class anything as overkill until it runs all games at frame rates to satisfy the current highest refresh rate monitor.

So as an example you want a GPU running Watch Dogs Legion all maxed with ray tracing at 360fps (I assume it would be 1080p for such refresh rate current)

 

[Stanners]

I was a bit confused, don't remember insulting anyone, not my style

You were absolutely fine, affected posts are deleted now!

 

[Simon Belmont]

All the shrouds are really ugly. The nvidia founder card looks like a throwback of the early to 2000 and all the AIB partner cards look like cheap tacky led nightmares. I’ll wait for a 3000 series redesign with more vram or even 4000 series.

 

[Vertigo]

You were absolutely fine, affected posts are deleted now!

Does this apply to me too? Got the warnings about a deleted post and don't recall insulting anyone.

 

[Azrael1]

Yup, this. A monitor is normally a once in 5-8 year purchase. It’s far better to have one that does at least 144hz than 4K for gaming.

Exactly apart from a few crazy ones here ( myself included ) - The monitor is probably one of the things less upgraded compared to the rest. I have played on all monitors styles and they have their strengths and weaknesses. I love Ultra ultrawide but also love 4k Console ports. I have played the new Call of duty and Battlefield 5 on the LG38 and the Samsung 49 and a 43 120hz Asus 4k- and for me ( very subjective ) the samsung 49 is the best experience followed by the LG38 and then the 4K.