NVIDIA ‘Ampere’ 8nm Graphics Cards

Gerard · 3 Sep 2020 at 18:22

Cavallino said:
Any word when preorders open on OCUK?

https://forums.overclockers.co.uk/t...e-at-overclockers-uk-3090-3080-3070.18897451/

danlightbulb · 3 Sep 2020 at 18:22

Greebo said:
My preference is Zotac for the warranty but it will come down to whichever card I can get a waterblock that fits it quickly. That would now appear to mean it wont be the founders edition as nobody is making waterblocks for them as they are not "reference" this generation which is a shame,.

I dont watercool yet but was thinking about it in my future build (when I end up swapping my cpu and mobo for zen3).

But i don't understand this founders is not the reference thing. Could you elaborate?

Also it seems wasteful to pay for a card with a cooler and then also have to buy a waterblock. Is it not possible to buy a bare card with no cooler?

banbom44 · 3 Sep 2020 at 18:23

ralv585 said:
Looking to upgrade from my 980ti, which card would suit me best for 4k 60fps?

My monitor is the BenQ PD3200U 32inch 4k monitor, with a max refresh rate of 60hz I believe.

I mostly play sims like Assetto Corsa/Competizione and now Flight Simulator 2020, so I'm looking at a rock solid 60fps and max settings, would the 3080 be overkill, or will the 3070 suffice?

I tend not to upgrade frequently, so ideally would like something to keep me going for at least 3-4 years, as the majority of my gaming is on consoles.

I have an i7 9700k and 16gb DDR4 ram as well.

i would get the 3080 its a reasonable price but even that won't be able to give you a rock solid 60 in every game we will see though.

P.B · 3 Sep 2020 at 18:24

Gerard said:
FE is a reference board. The cooler is a new take on their FE design, as for cooling we've no clue yet as this is new for a nvidia reference card.

False the FE isn't a reference board I'm afraid adding to the confusion, but to the guys original answer there clocked higher than refrence but and oc card is, but the FE editions normally over clock better as they keep better binned chips for the FE models so I've heard

Gerard · 3 Sep 2020 at 18:25

P.B said:
False the FE isn't a reference board I'm afraid adding to the confusion, but to the guys original answer there clocked higher than refrence but and oc card is, but the FE editions normally over clock better as they keep better binned chips for the FE models so I've heard

So whats the nvidia reference card if the FE isn't it exactly?

JohnG7 · 3 Sep 2020 at 18:26

Officially Founders Edition but IMO a reference card as water blocks fit it.

P.B · 3 Sep 2020 at 18:27

Its more like there standard design like what AIB cards are using, but it doesn't state which 1s so will make it a nightmare for waterblocks as I want a water-cooled 3090 idealy FE but looks like ek aint got a block on realese for it

Vertigo · 3 Sep 2020 at 18:28

EastCoastHandle said:
https://videocardz.com/newz/exclusive-gigabyte-aorus-z490-motherboards-are-pcie-4-0-ready

And I don't know how well that will be on Intel motherboards. But I will say that's going to be one expensive motherboard if you are on Intel with a CPU that's compatible.
Other then that AMD is your only upgrade path for PCIE 4.0.

It's been virtually confirmed for a while that the higher end Z490 boards will support PCIe4 to some degree with a Rocket Lake CPU.

What extent exactly is unclear but certainly for the GPU. What's interesting in the above is they confirm support for a PCIe4 M.2 NVMe drive yet the block diagram for my Aorus Master clearly shows that all three M.2 interfaces are on the chipset, which is on the other side of the DMI 3.0 bus which is PCIe3 x4 and won't change.

Rocket Lake will be adding an additional four lanes to the CPU so perhaps they've engineered the boards such that, with a Rocket Lake CPU in place, they can somehow switch one of the M.2 slots to use these additional PCIe4 lanes direct to the CPU.

Gerard · 3 Sep 2020 at 18:30

P.B said:
Its more like there standard design like what AIB cards are using, but it doesn't state which 1s so will make it a nightmare for waterblocks as I want a water-cooled 3090 idealy FE but looks like ek aint got a block on realese for it

So the standard design is the one sold by NVIDIA, aka the founders edition.

Vertigo · 3 Sep 2020 at 18:32

Gerard said:
So whats the nvidia reference card if the FE isn't it exactly?

This is what I was on about weeks ago.

Usually the FE serves to define the reference PCB which third parties can optionally use and thus becomes the standard for waterblock compatibility.

That isn't going to be the case this time as third parties aren't going to use the wacky PCB design of the FE or its 12-pin power connector so the question then becomes, what will form the "effective reference" PCB for third parties.
If they all design their own it'd be a nightmare for waterblock manufacturers and also cost them all a fortune in design and tooling.

I suspect either NVidia has a separate "reference" design for third parties to use if they want or the manufacturers will club together to define one themselves. My money is on the former.

Colonel_Klinck · 3 Sep 2020 at 18:46

Greebo said:
Loads of people have swapped or are just about to swap to the LG 48" cx screens so we just need cards that can deliver the goods

Yep that's me.

chaparral · 3 Sep 2020 at 18:46

bicpug said:
Looks like FE is out for me, i liked the look of them but i need 2xhdmi; one for tv and one for vr.

Greebo said:
Does any card have that? I havent seen a single AIB card with more than one hdmi yet.

The Asus ones says they have 2 HDMI outputs

HDMI Output : Yes x 2 (Native) (HDMI 2.1)
Display Port : Yes x 3 (Native) (DisplayPort 1.4a)
HDCP Support : Yes (2.3)

3090 Strix https://www.asus.com/uk/Graphics-Cards/ROG-STRIX-RTX3090-24G-GAMING/specifications/
3080 TUF https://www.asus.com/uk/Graphics-Cards/TUF-RTX3080-10G-GAMING/

P.B · 3 Sep 2020 at 18:56

Gerard said:
So the standard design is the one sold by NVIDIA, aka the founders edition.

No the standard design is what all the low end base aib models will use the FE is nvidias own custom design thats different to the refrence/standard PCB.... confusing I know

Gerard · 3 Sep 2020 at 18:57

P.B said:
No the standard design is what all the low end base aib models will use the FE is nvidias own custom design thats different to the refrence/standard PCB.... confusing I know

Well this is new as they said the FE was the new name for the reference design back with the 1080 launch.

P.B · 3 Sep 2020 at 18:59

Yeah I know same with the titans and such not with this launch due to them being so radically different

P.B · 3 Sep 2020 at 18:59

pain in back side as I really wanted to order from nvidia and get a water block ASAP to replace my 2080ti

Twinz · 3 Sep 2020 at 19:13

ralv585 said:
Bit overkill for 4k 60fps?

I'm running an HP Reverb in my driving sims, so I need a little more than 4K at 90fps locked. My 1080ti manages to do this if I run potato settings, but looking forward to cranking up the visuals now.

xraycat87 · 3 Sep 2020 at 19:16

Still not sure if I get a 3070 for 1440p. Or go big with the 3080 which will allow my system to max out at 144hz?

Ive never gamed beyond 60hz not sure if I expect too much.

youdsy · 3 Sep 2020 at 19:25

xraycat87 said:
Still not sure if I get a 3070 for 1440p. Or go big with the 3080 which will allow my system to max out at 144hz?

Ive never gamed beyond 60hz not sure if I expect too much.

Go with the 3080.

M1k3H · 3 Sep 2020 at 19:26

xraycat87 said:
Still not sure if I get a 3070 for 1440p. Or go big with the 3080 which will allow my system to max out at 144hz?

Ive never gamed beyond 60hz not sure if I expect too much.

I'm in the same boat (1440p/144Hz), but the majority of the game I play won't benefit much from 144Hz, so will go for the 3070, plus Gsync should help.