Ban on cars parking on pavements.

[TW]Fox said:
Why did you have no option? Was it the only place for rent within 25 miles?
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I must agree with this.
Whilst I am a Millennial, I do get sick of the 'whine whine poor me' attitude.
If you and your partner can afford a brand new A1 each on lease, you can afford to rent or buy a house with a driveway. It is all a matter of choice. If you are working full time at the supermarket, then you need to seriously reconsider your aspirations.
The public highway (and pavement) was never intended to be your personal storage space.

Vanquish-Storm said:
What do you do about guests? We have a drive big enough for the 2 cars we have. If someone drives over should we have a drive big enough for their car too?
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That is totally different to you permanently having four cars parked on the street and then having guest cars on top.
 
I'm all for it. Seen far too many people with prams or on mobility scooters locally having to go onto the road to get past a car which has mounted the pavement.
 
As with all these things blanket bans make no sense, local decisions need to be made to best suit the local situation. I’ve visited ad Ives in plenty of places were wet one parked cars on the pavement As it was the Only way to park cars on both sides and leave room for traffic, pavements weren’t blocked and were still safe and useable. A far more practical approach would be to paint a line down the pavement in areas that need pavement parking to limit the space taken.

The country has a problem with too many cars and the world has a problem with them getting progressively bigger and bigger!
 
Doesn't help increasingly cars are needed to get to and from work, etc. with the nature of the modern working world.

Not just pavement parking though - on my way to work there is someone parking on the road on a corner where the road narrows so that those coming one way can't see what is coming the other way before they have to commit to pull out around it and those coming the other way can't see the hazard until they are on top of it. Already caused 2 accidents that I'm aware of (one resulting in damage to one of their other vehicles) and I've seen some really close calls when I've been passing - IMO it is only a matter of time until a serious accident happens. They don't seem to give a **** however.
 
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Ive always had the attitude if you want to be guaranteed a place to park you car make sure your house has the appropriate amount of off street parking.

I have always followed the above and made comprises to do so expect once, where I choose to park 2 miles away so u didn't have to block a pavement. Hugely selfish move to block road/pavement because you are too lazy to walk a bit.
 
[TW]Fox said:
Where have you been these last 6 months? :p
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Not everyone answers phones or solely uses a computer for a living.
Probably don't the same as me and driving to work because public transport isn't good enough. I'd need 2 trains and a bus plus plenty of walking, would take almost 2 hours. Or I can drive it in 20 mins.
 
robj20 said:
Not everyone answers phones or solely uses a computer for a living.
Probably don't the same as me and driving to work because public transport isn't good enough. I'd need 2 trains and a bus plus plenty of walking, would take almost 2 hours. Or I can drive it in 20 mins.
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Same for me. Work is only 10 miles away but I'd have to take 3 buses as it's out of town. It's totally impractical.

Councils are also cancelling bus routes, yet expect more people to use public transport. They are idiots.
 
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Repta said:
Ive always had the attitude if you want to be guaranteed a place to park you car make sure your house has the appropriate amount of off street parking.

I have always followed the above and made comprises to do so expect once, where I choose to park 2 miles away so u didn't have to block a pavement. Hugely selfish move to block road/pavement because you are too lazy to walk a bit.
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That's true, but there's a difference between having to park in the next street, and suddenly not being able to park on any street. And whether you personally think people should only have a car if they have off street storage for it, surely you can see the massive disruption and inconvenience that it would cause to suddenly remove a large proportion of all available on street parking options, or even all on street parking full stop of some people get their way.

It would completely change many people's lives for the worse, and completely change the viability of many residential areas all around the country (except London and perhaps the centre of the UK's other large cities).

Blocking roads and pavements is already illegal, so using that as an excuse for a ban just doesn't make sense.
 
GreatAuk said:
That's true, but there's a difference between having to park in the next street, and suddenly not being able to park on any street. And whether you personally think people should only have a car if they have off street storage for it, surely you can see the massive disruption and inconvenience that it would cause to suddenly remove a large proportion of all available on street parking options, or even all on street parking full stop of some people get their way.

It would completely change many people's lives for the worse, and completely change the viability of many residential areas all around the country (except London and perhaps the centre of the UK's other large cities).

Blocking roads and pavements is already illegal, so using that as an excuse for a ban just doesn't make sense.
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You seem to be under the impression that banning on-street parking is being discussed, it isn’t. Only parking on the pavement. Roads where you can park on the road safely without causing an obstruction to passing larger vehicles is fine.

FWIW I personally think that every residential and/or narrow street should be double-yellowed down one side of the street.
 
paradigm said:
You seem to be under the impression that banning on-street parking is being discussed, it isn’t. Only parking on the pavement. Roads where you can park on the road safely without causing an obstruction to passing larger vehicles is fine.

FWIW I personally think that every residential and/or narrow street should be double-yellowed down one side of the street.
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I think the discussion has entered a bit of a grey area since people started responding to the statement "If you want a car, buy a house with parking" but nobody has really clarified whether "with parking" in the context of that comment referred exclusively to off road parking.

If that was the intented meaning, that would clearly be an oddly extreme restriction,given many roads can cope with parked cars, even if its not defined and marked as such.
 
paradigm said:
You seem to be under the impression that banning on-street parking is being discussed, it isn’t. Only parking on the pavement. Roads where you can park on the road safely without causing an obstruction to passing larger vehicles is fine.

FWIW I personally think that every residential and/or narrow street should be double-yellowed down one side of the street.
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Wouldn't work here even one car parked fully on the road would completely block the road. Cars have to park as much on the pavement as possible.
 
My estate was built about 20 years ago, so the roads are quite narrow. I'd say roughly half the residents park on the pavement even though they have perfectly good parking available next to their house, they are just too ******* lazy to walk the extra 10 feet.
 
robj20 said:
Wouldn't work here even one car parked fully on the road would completely block the road. Cars have to park as much on the pavement as possible.
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And if they double yellow the road. Because that's what would be the case in London if parking on the road blocks traffic.

Do these houses not have driveways?
 
robj20 said:
Wouldn't work here even one car parked fully on the road would completely block the road. Cars have to park as much on the pavement as possible.
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No, cars have to go somewhere else. The pavement is for pedestrians unless otherwise marked.

Sounds like that’s a road that shouldn’t have any parking if it blocks the road, unless we are talking a 10ft wide pavement, then I’d see an argument for marked parking bays on the pavement.
 
paradigm said:
No, cars have to go somewhere else. The pavement is for pedestrians unless otherwise marked.

Sounds like that’s a road that shouldn’t have any parking if it blocks the road, unless we are talking a 10ft wide pavement, then I’d see an argument for marked parking bays on the pavement.
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Nope it's about 3 feet wide. People just walk down the road it's not a big deal.
Where would the cars go, I can't think of a street/road anywhere near that has space either so where do all those cars go as well.
 
Kenai said:
I think the discussion has entered a bit of a grey area since people started responding to the statement "If you want a car, buy a house with parking" but nobody has really clarified whether "with parking" in the context of that comment referred exclusively to off road parking.

If that was the intented meaning, that would clearly be an oddly extreme restriction,given many roads can cope with parked cars, even if its not defined and marked as such.
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I picked up on this and I didn’t say anything at the time. But after one of my neighbours today came over for a chat whilst I was cleaning the cars. We both mentioned how we would love to be able to afford to move house, so we wouldn’t be in this situation with the parking in are area. It is not as simply of buying or renting somewhere with a drive etc.
 
inflames said:
I picked up on this and I didn’t say anything at the time. But after one of my neighbours today came over for a chat whilst I was cleaning the cars. We both mentioned how we would love to be able to afford to move house, so we wouldn’t be in this situation with the parking in are area. It is not as simply of buying or renting somewhere with a drive etc.
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Agree with you there, people that think it's that easy either have loads of money or don't have a car.
 
robj20 said:
Nope it's about 3 feet wide. People just walk down the road it's not a big deal.
Where would the cars go, I can't think of a street/road anywhere near that has space either so where do all those cars go as well.
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So you feel it acceptable for say a disabled person or a blind person to have to walk in the middle of the road, just so you can keep your car close to the house? Isn’t that EXACTLY the problem? The solution isn’t meant to appease the selfish, it’s meant to return the pavement back to the pedestrian.
 
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