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Oh oh! Nv's in trouble, AMD coming, to burst their bubble!
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NVIDIA ‘Ampere’ 8nm Graphics Cards
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Oh oh! Nv's in trouble, AMD coming, to burst their bubble!
Nah - likely see what used to happen in the past - nVidia comes along first, AMD launches a bit later with an incremental product, nVidia comes back with the refresh.
Pretty much. If AMD don't release some solid news before pre-orders go up on the NVIDIA cards, I think NVIDIA will have pre-orders and demand to last them at least 6 months anyway. AMD will pick up the scraps re: sales and then NVIDIA will release a refresh and continue to be the king of PC GPUs.
Hopefully I'm wrong, AMD turn up with something very competitive but in all honesty, the more I think about RTX, the more in love with it I am. Yet to see if RTX games will play with RTX features on AMD Cards. e.g. will Shadow of the Tomb Raider work on big Navi with RTX features?
I'm managing to play 60-120hz gsync 1440p with DLSS fully maxed out tomb raider on a 2080 so I assume 3080 will give me this type of performance at 4k on my lg.
as long as the performance is there and the price is right I really don't care who has the Halo product, cause I cant afford that anyway.
True. I think the entire AMD vs NVIDIA debates sometimes has hairs crossed. People are looking at THEIR price budget and THEIR target resolution and refresh rate but applying it in broad terms.
I'm specifically looking at powering a 4K 120hz OLED panel. I feel as if the 3080 will be sufficient for this. I'm not sure if AMD have anything in their locker which will.
For 1080p/1440p and the value proposition there, I think AMD will kill it (as they always have in terms of price to FPS). However, the burning question on most people's minds who are at the high edn in regards to revolution is will AMD deliver? I don't need a cheaper 3070, I need a card which is going to break boundaries and allow me to power through 4k at a minimum of 60fps faultlessly, and where thats not possible, present me with other solutions to combat it.
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I've never ordered a FE from Nvidia before, does anyone know what to expect come the 17th on the 3080. What are the odds if you order the moment the store goes live (if I basically camp it all day) that they can ship one immediately? Or are the stock basically gone instantly and it's just an insane lottery if you manage to get in the few seconds, leading to weeks of waiting in queue with others?
My S10 has been submerged. It's fine
There is no doubt that I prefer AMD hardware over Nvidia most of the time. However, I have never and will never recommend an AMD product if Nvidia has one that offers better performance per dollar or if the client is looking for a performance tier AMD cannot deliver at all. I see some people trying to talk others into lesser products so their brand of choice can get a sale. Silly really.
There is going to be quite a lot of moaning and peoples hopes dashed if they expect a card delivered on 18th. Anyone remember last time on a GPU launch you got the card next day ? Must be years ago.
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My guess at this point is that they'll avoid any kind of real time ray traced rendering, and aim squarely at rasterization performance, based on what the console GPUs are going to be like and how that architecture is geared. I think that means a couple of things, first of all RTX/DLSS equivalents will be a no show. And secondly that they can avoid wasting transistors on RT and Tensor core equivalents and just focus it all on rasterization optimized cores. That means they'd be able to achieve the rasterization performance of a 3080 with a smaller chip size, therefore lower cost, lower power, better temps and better overclocking.
They could produce some monster that has the raw number of transistors as the 3080 or 3090 but the problem is that literally no one needs that kind of rasterization power. Last time we ended up in this position AMD kinda had to justify all that additional rendering power on triple monitor setups, because 1080p was trivial to run at that point, all you could do was whack more v-out on the card and try and sell multi-monitor gaming. They're going to need some kind of gambit if they want to go super high end rasterization only, some new crazy feature.
Personally though I think they'll just go small, cheap and fast at rasterization. There's a whole generation of gamers still stuck at 1080p with a market flooded with cheap 4k monitors. And if they can make a 4k card aimed only at rasterization that's very cheap, they can bring 4k to the masses and steal a lot of sales from Nvidia. And honestly this has been AMDs MO for a while, target the mid range stuff and do it well. The vast majority of gamers want middle of the road GPUs, the enthusiast market is actually quite small.
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That's why I'm asking, I've never ordered FE before. Honestly if that turns into playing some waiting game I'll probably hop on board the price gouge train for a 3rd party GPU, the extra £30-40 doesn't bother me if it'll eliminate weeks of waiting.
It will turn into a waiting game, believe me. Last round people were cancelling their FE order because it was late/no idea of deliver date and would rather have a AIB card.
Thanks mate, I really appreciate your time and help. Have a good night.All comes down to personal preference, I’ll be going FE as it’ll fit into my build better.
If I were to choose an AiB, it would be the Zotac for the 5 year warranty and the very good looking and efficient cooler.
https://www.overclockers.co.uk/zota...dr6x-pci-express-graphics-card-gx-122-zt.html
I am sure they will so long as you buy it before they run out of stock.
You little tinker humbug
It says 80CU on the chart
lol I had to go check myself as 160CU would have put it at double the 3080 performance and 80% faster than a 3090!
early Nvidia 3000 series buyers would have been crying worse than 2080ti owners were lol
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Ah that sucks. Does anyone have any idea if the people with these experiences ordered late or if they camped the store to wait for it to go live? Presumably if you're in early enough you're likely to get one. Or is literally the case if you order seconds after the store opens you're still not guaranteed stock?