NVIDIA ‘Ampere’ 8nm Graphics Cards

[LeMson]

Look forward to your reply

Potato

 

[TNA]

Compared to the £1200 they bought them for, it's cheap

Should have sold it before Nvidia’s presentation then

 

[pBay]

Let's be honest, if you are happy to pony up £1200 for a 2080ti then you must have accepted the risk it could devalue substantially.

But yea, don't see much point going from that to a 3080. 1080 and older though, could be a decent jump

 

[tyler_jrb]

placibg my bets now, the 3070 only beats the 2080ti in rayvtracing or dlss, nothing else

With bog standard gddr I’d have to agree with that.

The 3070 still has 2944 cuda cores and with the 2x shader calcs per clock may result in around .5x scaling, although it’s difficult to say it won’t be double though.

So I’d bet if they don’t run that fast which is likely then at best 3070 will match 2080Ti. Both cards overclocked then I don’t think it will beat it. I don’t think it will be far though and you still have the DLSS/RTX improvements.

Still great value, and much better value for all but a lot of nvidia marketing going on with these cards. We now see nvidia cuda cores vs cuda cores on Turing. Basically the justification for doubling cuda numbers.

 

[IvanDobskey]

Personally, I don't think any of the new cards are going to be substantially faster than a 2080ti.

 

[Poneros]

3070 will choke on the VRAM so hard, it's gonna be funny to see the complaints a year from now. That really is more of a 1080p/1440p high refresh-rate card than one for pure IQ 4K60.

 

[GAC]

3070 will choke on the VRAM so hard, it's gonna be funny to see the complaints a year from now. That really is more of a 1080p/1440p high refresh-rate card than one for pure IQ 4K60.

anyone buying a 3070 for 4k is being idiotic.

 

[Adrian1976]

anyone buying a 3070 for 4k is being idiotic.

Agreed, I'm still not sure the 3080 can do it, my 1080ti is struggling in division 2 at 35fps so if the 3080 isn't twice as fast after I've seen reviews on Monday then I'm out again, waste of time and money being on the edge, I was only upgrading for 4k 60fps gaming but it's looking a bit close to the edge on some titles.

 

[tyler_jrb]

Agreed, I'm still not sure the 3080 can do it, my 1080ti is struggling in division 2 at 35fps so if the 3080 isn't twice as fast after I've seen reviews on Monday then I'm out again, waste of time and money being on the edge, I was only upgrading for 4k 60fps gaming but it's looking a bit close to the edge on some titles.

Unless it’s absolute max settings then it should do with ease. 3080 should be nearly twice as fast as 1080Ti.

Not many games my 2080Ti can’t do 4k 60hz on unless I’m maxing every setting available. And even then only the poorly optimised and really demanding titles can’t manage it such as Assassins creed or rdr2.

I want at least 50% above my 2080Ti to be able to run all new games at 4k 60hz maxed otherwise I’ll be sticking with what I have.

 

[Greebo]

so seeing as its sooon, how much does everyone think the 3070 will beat the 2080ti at in the hardware unboxed games testing when they run their full list of games. will it be neck and neck or will we actually see say a 10% gain overall when averaged out.

personally im expecting around a 5% win, if its much lower it ends up being in the land of random variances which means its a draw.

Well seeing that using cherry picked games by Nvidia in their presentation and half of the games used were tested with RT and DLSS where the 3070 should be a lot faster than the 2080ti and Nvidia then only claimed it was 0.1% faster on average, I can see people are going to be disappointed then,.

I expect the 3070 to be up to 20% in some RT and DLSS games and to be 20% slower in some none RT/DLSS games and overall across all games due to the lack of RT/DLSS games, its a 5% win fro the 2080ti.

 

[jonneymendoza]

Yep, Jonney is confused again



Here you go:

Look forward to your reply

Funny thing here is, you was expecting the 3080 to be twice the performance of the 2080Ti, but thought lets wait for AMD as they may be able to beat it or have any impact on it in shape or form? As you was saying you are waiting on AMD. Lol

Lol looking at the graph it looks twice as fast on where they placed the 3080.

But what about the 3090? Is that gunna be near twice as fast?

 

[rchads89]

so if the 3080 isn't twice as fast

twice as fast as what 1080ti or 2080ti?

 

[GAC]

Agreed, I'm still not sure the 3080 can do it, my 1080ti is struggling in division 2 at 35fps so if the 3080 isn't twice as fast after I've seen reviews on Monday then I'm out again, waste of time and money being on the edge, I was only upgrading for 4k 60fps gaming but it's looking a bit close to the edge on some titles.

why im still on a 1440p screen, id like a ultrawide or a 4k screen either way but cant do both a new screen and gpu just starts getting too much money for the gains.

Well seeing that using cherry picked games by Nvidia in their presentation and half of the games used were tested with RT and DLSS where the 3070 should be a lot faster than the 2080ti and Nvidia then only claimed it was 0.1% faster on average, I can see people are going to be disappointed then,.

I expect the 3070 to be up to 20% in some RT and DLSS games and to be 20% slower in some none RT/DLSS games and overall across all games due to the lack of RT/DLSS games, its a 5% win fro the 2080ti.

on the reddit q and a nvidia did state the 3070 is faster in rt and none rt titles. so if they where lying on that they will get reamed big time by the community, and as its an official post by a engineer i could see someone trying to sue for false advertisement.

 

[Kaapstad]

That will be interesting indeed. The Teclab leaked benches show the 3080 putting up 11k score in Port Royal rayvtraced test - 25% faster than a stock Titan RTX

That is quite disappointing for Ray Tracing performance.

Here are my Air Cooled RTX Titans in SLI doing Port Royal, I don't think the 3090 will be able to put much of a dent in that so it looks like improved RTX claims are a bit off. Yes the 3090 will be noticeably better at RTX than the 2080 Ti but not as good as some of the hype.

https://www.3dmark.com/pr/111010

Having said that I think the 3090 (and 3080) are going to be a great cards with big improvements in normal gaming performance.

 

[Perfect_Chaos]

if the 10GB vram is not likely a bottleneck at 1440p for upcoming games i will likely go for the MSI 3080, if it shows a good 20+% boost over the 2080ti.

Looking forward to those hardware unboxed vram tests

 

[Greebo]

Lol looking at the graph it looks twice as fast on where they placed the 3080.

But what about the 3090? Is that gunna be near twice as fast?

? You can clearly see on that graph the 2080ti is at 3.25 relative perfromance and the 3080 is at 4.5

(4.5-3.25)/3.25 = 38% on average.

And that is at stock and using DLSS and RT in games which support it.

I dont think there is going to be that much headroom in overclocking these 3080 somehow so at max boost for both cards the 2080ti will gain more to you will probably drop to less than 30% faster on average.

For a card that costs £650 compared with £1150 last time then thats a good deal.

Is it worth a 2080ti to sell their £1200 AIB card for £400 and spend £800 on a new AIB 3080 for 30%? Not so sure.

The 3090 looks on paper to be 20% faster than the 3080 so 50% faster than the 2080ti on average.

That looks much more appealing as a step up for a 2080ti owner but the problem there is that they will be spending £1400 on the 3090 after only selling their 2080ti for £400 so its going to cost them a grand for a 50% gain.

To me its liek this for 2080ti owners.

Spend £400 for a 30% gain or spend £1000 for a 50% gain or keep your 2080ti until next year.

 

[TNA]

Lol looking at the graph it looks twice as fast on where they placed the 3080.

But what about the 3090? Is that gunna be near twice as fast?

Lol, so you saw that graph before and that is how you came to the conclusion that nvidia said 3080 is gonna be twice as fast as a 2080Ti? Haha.

No it is not. When in recent history have we got twice as fast gen on gen anyway? You crack me up sometimes man

I love how you dodge all my questions and keep asking more.

 

[Kaapstad]

if the 10GB vram is not likely a bottleneck at 1440p for upcoming games i will likely go for the MSI 3080, if it shows a good 20+% boost over the 2080ti.

Looking forward to those hardware unboxed vram tests

After using 24gb cards for a couple of years it is very rare to see anything get close to 10gb.

The most I have manged to use on some bench maxed out at 8k was about 16gb, this is not a real life situation.

 

[Greebo]

why im still on a 1440p screen, id like a ultrawide or a 4k screen either way but cant do both a new screen and gpu just starts getting too much money for the gains.



on the reddit q and a nvidia did state the 3070 is faster in rt and none rt titles. so if they where lying on that they will get reamed big time by the community, and as its an official post by a engineer i could see someone trying to sue for false advertisement.

Well their graph puts the 3070 just a fraction of a mm above the 2080ti in performance.

Plus they only need one none rt game where the 3070 is faster (at stock speeds) to back up their claim

 

[Adrian1976]

Unless it’s absolute max settings then it should do with ease. 3080 should be nearly twice as fast as 1080Ti.

Not many games my 2080Ti can’t do 4k 60hz on unless I’m maxing every setting available. And even then only the poorly optimised and really demanding titles can’t manage it such as Assassins creed or rdr2.

I want at least 50% above my 2080Ti to be able to run all new games at 4k 60hz maxed otherwise I’ll be sticking with what I have.

It's usually what I like to do, max settings, I know some settings are stupid and unnecessary but just knowing you have that bit of extra for a couple of years.

And yes poorly optimised games I won't play anyway unless it can handle it, won't even buy poorly optimised games out of just principle.