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NVIDIA ‘Ampere’ 8nm Graphics Cards

Guest2 said:
60fps was unheard of in the late 90s. 30fps was seen as a good standard from what I remember. Granded I never could get 30fps unless I played games at 640x480 (which I did) or before that 320x240, good old pre SVGA days
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Aah yes I remember, I remember trying to play redneck rampage the fps was terrible from what I can remember in higher resolutions lol.
 
Adrian1976 said:
Aah yes I remember, I remember trying to play redneck rampage the fps was terrible from what I can remember in higher resolutions lol.
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What a game! Not heard of that for years. I just used to go to a mates house who had a beast of a machine with a 'huge' 17" monitor, 3dfx of some sort and could play everything in 800x600 at least or 1024x768
Kids today are tech spoilt. 3 year olds with iPads and stuff
 
Guest2 said:
What a game! Not heard of that for years. I just used to go to a mates house who had a beast of a machine with a 'huge' 17" monitor, 3dfx of some sort and could play everything in 800x600 at least or 1024x768
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Yeah it was an online coop game with friends, remember having to keep reconnecting via the trusty old crappy dial up modem at 9600 at 14000 baud rate haha.

Yes kids don't know they're born these days lol, it was a real struggle back then, my phone is much more powerful than what my desktop PC was lol.
 
Adrian1976 said:
The binning process is real lol, don't expect any overclocks from the low end cards.
https://youtu.be/RvznEWgiFjs
Not surprised the YouTube reviewers get bin 2 samples, the best of the bunch to try and showcase it a bit more, so don't take any notice of overclocks what YouTubers are getting.
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apart from when people didnt get cards and bought their own last time which showed no preferential binning for review cards. honestly calm down with the BS its getting silly now. whats next, nvidia slowly older cards down ? again been proven to be false.
 
Adrian1976 said:
Yeah it was an online coop game with friends, remember having to keep reconnecting via the trusty old crappy dial up modem at 9600 at 14000 baud rate haha.
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Dial up was crap for any live action game, it lagged non stop for me. Still played some games even with all the lag though.

Best for me was Worms 2 in 99, since it was turn based. First broadband was 128k i think in 2001, RTCW online play completely smooth and such a huge difference over crappy 56k
 
WesleyBurns said:
What socks are we expecting on the 17th at 2PM? I have about 3 cards I would pick, first one to show stock I am buying.
Last time I got stuck in no mans land was with the 3950X :p .... 4000 soon too!
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GAC said:
apart from when people didnt get cards and bought their own last time which showed no preferential binning for review cards. honestly calm down with the BS its getting silly now. whats next, nvidia slowly older cards down ? again been proven to be false.
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Well that's what is going to be interesting to see what YouTubers clock to and then end users with the cheaper cards, it would make sense albeit time consuming for the manufacturer but then why would an AIB sell you a bin 2 chip that can clock up 20% higher on their low end 649.00 card when they can charge you more for a higher end model, so I'd say yes it does make sense.
 
Perfect_Chaos said:
Dial up was crap for any live action game, it lagged non stop for me. Still played some games even with all the lag though.

Best for me was Worms 2 in 99, since it was turn based. First broadband was 128k i think in 2001, RTCW online play completely smooth and such a huge difference over crappy 56k
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Yes it was crap and we still had to play there was no alternative :D.

Aah yes I think I remember, although 56k was around a while I think, or 56 flex blue yonder cable called it lol.

Aah worms, classic, loved this on the commodore Amiga, what a machine.
 
Adrian1976 said:
Well that's what is going to be interesting to see what YouTubers clock to and then end users with the cheaper cards, it would make sense albeit time consuming for the manufacturer but then why would an AIB sell you a bin 2 chip that can clock up 20% higher on their low end 649.00 card when they can charge you more for a higher end model, so I'd say yes it does make sense.
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does binning happen for high end cards, yes as thats why you pay a premium, be strange if you didnt. but the fe/base cards will still clock a bit. as for 20% higher over a lower binned card any actual figures of this in previous gen's ? as that seems rather a lot.
 
GAC said:
does binning happen for high end cards, yes as thats why you pay a premium, be strange if you didnt. but the fe/base cards will still clock a bit. as for 20% higher over a lower binned card any actual figures of this in previous gen's ? as that seems rather a lot.
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Well of course you'd expect it too for higher end cards, they'd have to they have no choice, that's what's happening right now or has been for the last couple of weeks hence TBC on all websites regarding clock speeds.

But also as the video suggests when manufacturing matures and it does happen especially after a new fabrication, they may not do it as much, that's natural and happens with all chips CPUs as well.

The Zotac 1080ti amp extreme card I purchased will not do 10mhz higher without crashing in something, yet some FE cards clock higher, granted it was the top clocked amp extreme but the fact still remains some are clocked at 2100+ I've no chance with this, so I do believe they do bin even for lower end cards until supply is good.
 
the thing is with binning they test to a range NOT the max, so you will always get a variation, and on the odd occasion you will get one that just wont clock higher at all. but as long as it hits the numbers they claimed it would you really cant grumble.
 
GAC said:
the thing is with binning they test to a range NOT the max, so you will always get a variation, and on the odd occasion you will get one that just wont clock higher at all. but as long as it hits the numbers they claimed it would you really cant grumble.
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Oh yeah I agree, there will be some variation hence paying higher for the highest clock variants, nope I can't grumble it's doing what it's advertised to do just about lol, but goes to show it's not always best to have an AIB card.
 
Greebo said:
Was quite lignin that until I saw its one of those that has gone for a 4th fan on backplate!

These new cards really are going to need some serious cooling!
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Yeah I noticed that, there is another brand doing that isn't there I think?

Yeah going off the thickness of the heatsinks alone on some it's looking like they need more cooling than ever, be interesting to see what temps the FE are with that heatsink and 2 fans.
 
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