You know that very old saying of " You only live once and life is far too short so spend that cash"
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NVIDIA ‘Ampere’ 8nm Graphics Cards
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I believe they call it the Next Gen series due to them expecting many more games with Ray Tracing coming, I know there's not many RT games around at the moment, but even coming "soon" there's Watch Dogs Legion, Cyberpunk 2077, Vampire Masquerade Bloodlines, Dying Light 2, Atomic Heart, Witcher 3 upgrade. These are the ones I know of, if you wanted to experience the "Next Gen" versions of these games with the Ray Tracing you would need an Ampere card (for decent frames)
Same boat here.
I was set on the 3090 previously, but rumours of a performance uplift over the 3080 of as low as 15 percent (more so 20 to 25) have turned me off a bit. If they let it use lots more power maybe it will OC really well, but I've not heard anything about that yet.
Maybe buy a 3080 on launch, don't open it, and if amazing news comes out about 3090 and you can nab one, return the 3080?
I think that's what I'll do, although I don't expect the 3090 to deliver enough for me to pay an extra 700 quid.
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If performance is crap with RT on it will be going straight off for me anyway
You should buy a 3070 as well just to be safe.
You know that very old saying of " You only live once and life is far too short so spend that cash"
tbh i have the cash to buy both cards and watherblocks to boot, i supose if i do that i'll have a card no matter what, in case the 3080 or 3090 sells out quick, my goal is the 3090, soon as it was shown i knew i needed one, IF i end up with both cards and get the 3090 i'll put the 3080 on the members market here
If performance is crap with RT on it will be going straight off for me anyway
I think well executed it's a worthwhile trade off. I couldn't play Control without it after getting used to it. DLSS may lack some of the sharpness of native, but it looks way better to me. The trailers for Watchdog and Cyberpunk have some areas which I think will really shine with it!
No, thanks. It's definitely not for me. The other two are though.
Why does the 3090 need to be so much bigger then a 3080 for only an extra 30 watts power draw ?
probably due to the fact its aimed at more professional users who could be maxing it out for hours at a time with video and 3d work and compiling as well as ai use i bet. so even though its only a bit more in watts its the long term heat soak they have to deal with.
Why does the 3090 need to be so much bigger then a 3080 for only an extra 30 watts power draw ?
the extra cuda cores and extra ram modules are the culprit as to why the card is so much bigger, to maximise cooling of the card, there was a leak early on stating that the gddr6x was running hot on initial engernering cards (my guess it was a 3090 but using the 3080 pcb layout, components too close together
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Yeah I get that, I understand it's a clever marketing trick, what it really is, is a next gen RT card even though the double cuda core count is misleading as well, be interesting to see how it performs with RT on, I didn't have a 2080ti but from what I heard it was a laughing stock with RT on so maybe it's not powerful enough again with RT on who knows, but we will soon enough.
Why does the 3090 need to be so much bigger then a 3080 for only an extra 30 watts power draw ?
well if the leaks are true that are coming out, the 3090 boosts to 10% higher than the 3080 so will need more cooling for that
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I really don’t understand why people like the actual coolers any of these cards come with. They are all terrible really. Yes I know this is a sweeping statement - but - when you have seen an G12/AIO running at 45 degrees with the card boosting all day long at max frequency at 100% load with MSI afterburners power and temp limits at max, for a tiny 25 pound outlay plus an AIO, you won’t ever go back. Good news is you just use it again and again.
Seems you are projecting or not understanding what I am saying. You need to look at the context of what things were said in. When I say 4K gets the most out of the card, I think it is pretty clear in the context of looking at those graphs that 4K has the biggest gains and letting the card stretch its legs the most. In contrast when you look at the gains made on say 1080p relative to other cards you can clearly see it is not getting the most out of the card.
Nvidia themselves are using 4K to show of the card as that is where it see’s most gains. Hence what I am saying is accurate
You seem to get defensive and take what I said out of context by saying “i would not call "getting the most out of it" if FPS starts going into the 40's or 30's but each to his own”. So yeah, not sure if not understanding what is what or on purpose strawmaning
Keep in mind it doesn't always work so well for every card, some configurations are more fiddly than others. Then there's risk to consider of messing with the card and installing it, which not everyone's comfortable with. And on top of that in Europe consumer protection is actually weaker than in the States when you take the card apart so you have more of a chance to be denied RMA. On top of it all - you can actually get, for ex. on a 2080 Ti, 2 Ghz boost clock with pretty much any of the air cooled variants and without the cards spinning like mad making lots of noise - so why bother? Lower temps are nice and all, but lower temps for the sake of lower temps is just vanity if performance is otherwise the same.