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I am very suspicious of these leaked reviews..

The only "real" review was that of digital foundry, and that showed a 80% increase to 3080 over 2080..
Are we all now thinking that was fake?

DF have always been trustworthy

up to 80%, on specific games they were allowed to show.

But no I don't think it was fake. I trust Digital Foundry more than anyone else really.
 
I am very suspicious of these leaked reviews..

The only "real" review was that of digital foundry, and that showed a 80% increase to 3080 over 2080..
Are we all now thinking that was fake?

DF have always been trustworthy

Trustworthy yet they got the card before anyone else and quite clearly stated they are under instruction not to mention FPS, didn't need to watch anymore of the video as soon as that was mentioned.
 
Are you unfamiliar with NDA's?

No I'm not, if you had a Ferrari that was twice as fast as the previous Ferrari would you show it off or hide that fact until release day?

It really is not rocket science and you will see that come Wednesday.

Surely you remember GPU releases in the past, manufactures would show you FPS numbers to validate their claim not hiding behind mysterious percentages claiming upto with a gimped 2080.
 
I am very suspicious of these leaked reviews..

The only "real" review was that of digital foundry, and that showed a 80% increase to 3080 over 2080..
Are we all now thinking that was fake?

DF have always been trustworthy
It was not fake. It was testing against the 2080, not the 2080Ti or even the 2080 super. That was how they got the massive score and why everyone is believes the performance jump over the 2080Ti is likely going to be <30%(rasterization).
 

Talks about the 3070 specs, for obvious reasons, no other benchmarkers have managed to escape Nvidiamo Bay yet. But why release this video now (apart from the obvious ad revenue)?

Reading between the lines, it seems the 3080 is a bit of a dud and not even worth a fraction of the hype it has got. It will still sell out quickly and be of use to some but high power usage means probably poor overclocking, higher energy bills, and new PSUs for a lot of gamers (during a PSU shortage no less). And on top of that, Nvidia have nerfed the vram by 1gb over the 2080ti to ensure that 4k gamers will have to upgrade again in a couple of years time. Poor show, Nvidia. Poor show.

Basically... save us AMD, from this Nvidia nightmare!
 
That Adored video is interesting watching. You can see why the water block vendors have all been so quick off the mark for this release if these are going to be hot. EK have been really plugging their GPU blocks recently in social media, so I suspect water is going to popular this release.
 
I am very suspicious of these leaked reviews..

The only "real" review was that of digital foundry, and that showed a 80% increase to 3080 over 2080..
Are we all now thinking that was fake?

DF have always been trustworthy

If you mean the doom eternal video, the settings used was ones which crippled the 2080 and it loses 20% of its performance. So yeah "at those settings" its 80% faster. In every other game or settings, its not.
 
It really should have been obvious to everybody that the 3090 is actually their top gaming card, given the third party models being allowed with "GAMING" slapped all over the cards, boxes and marketing. The whole "it's a Titan gov, swear on me mum it is" marketing angle was just to suppress any criticism of its price (successfully, I might add).

Exactly. You have to look at their wording of it "Titan class performance" but it's NOT a titan. Old titans had a power draw around 250W. This 3090 is going to draw 350W-400W so they can't CALL it a Titan (it's a whole new class of card with that power draw requirement), but can INFER some "TITAN"-esq terminology to make you believe it's a new titan. I think the 3090 is actually the 3080Ti, rebranded, and another couple of hundred dollars on the price. You look at the £££ numbers of the 3080 and 3090, compared to the difference between the 2080 and 2080Ti £££'s difference.
 
I am very suspicious of these leaked reviews..

The only "real" review was that of digital foundry, and that showed a 80% increase to 3080 over 2080..
Are we all now thinking that was fake?

DF have always been trustworthy
I wouldn't say it was fake just more like showing the 3080 in a best case against a 2080 that was VRAM handicapped at 4K.
 
Haven't we got beyond the point of setting everything to "Ultra" now and then complaining that performance isn't good enough?

Thanks to Digital Foundry and Hardware Unboxed, they often go in to great detail about how "visible" certain settings are vs their hit on performance.

I pretty much have always done this, especially on demanding games. My findings have been that in most games the increase in image quality is much bigger going from 1440p to 2160p, relative to the drop in image quality going from Ultra to High which in most cases is minimal and you need still shots to see the difference.


Right now my plan is to order the FE as soon as it becomes available, if no luck with a dispatch for launch then will go for the Zotac, if no luck with that either then I will sit back and wait to see whats what in November and just buy before Cyberpunk 2077 is out. Way I see it is if I cannot have it on launch, then might as well wait until I really need the card in November.


If you mean the doom eternal video, the settings used was ones which crippled the 2080 and it loses 20% of its performance. So yeah "at those settings" its 80% faster. In every other game or settings, its not.
If I remember correctly the guy who did that video said the experience you get on the 3080 is like nothing else available before, that it took it to another level at 4K. I wonder if he was bending the truth or is the 3080 meaningfully better than a 2080Ti as he would suggest.


Why would 'Ultra Nightmare' settings "cripple" a 2080 and not a 3080?

VRAM maybe, as it uses around 9-10gb I think and it is the type of fast moving game where it needs the vram available.

Thing is, no one is willing to do a comparison between the "ultra nightmare" and "nightmare" texture setting when I ask, I wonder why, hardly any difference to image quality maybe? :p:D
 
Oh boy founders edition stock at launch is looking really bad.

I'm thinking I might get a new gpu by December

Might be a blessing in disguise.

Let's face it, anyone who buys a 3080 on release may find it gets usurped by a TI or even and it's a big if that AMD knock it out the park and put out a 40% + card with more VRAM and a sub 300w tdp.
 
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Except people have seen there is a 3080Ti waiting in the wings imminently to be pushed out which will only screw over the 3080 buyers.
True but more £ (£1000?) - im at the point in my life now where 700 quid for a gpu + a sale is about as much as I can afford or should even spend on on a GPU. In fact its always been about 500-700 going back even a decade.

Once i purchased a 690 GTX, that was a poor puchase overall....
 
I wouldn't say it was fake just more like showing the 3080 in a best case against a 2080 that was VRAM handicapped at 4K.

I just did a quick search and a 2080 at 4k/Ultra Nightmare is not "VRAM capped":

https://www.techspot.com/article/1999-doom-eternal-benchmarks/

Now for those wanting to game at 4K without any kind of resolution scaling trickery, for around 60 fps you’ll want at the very least an RTX 2060 Super, though ideally something more like the 5700 XT. Meanwhile the RTX 2070 Super kept frame rates above 60 fps throughout the duration of our test, while the RTX 2080 Ti powered through with ease.

Interestingly, while the 5600 XT continues to suffer, it’s now slower than an 8GB 5500 XT. The 6GB GeForce GPUs don’t appear to suffer though, with the RTX 2060 remaining strong. It’s difficult to know if Nvidia isn't performing some trickery at the driver level, the difference between AMD and Nvidia performance with 6GB of VRAM seems too extreme.

When it comes to preset scaling we see once again that the Ultra, Nightmare and Ultra Nightmare settings are all very similar in terms of performance, as long as you have 8GB or more VRAM available.
 
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