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With all this new graphics power coming from Red and Green.....

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Last night i was thinking do i go Nvidia or AMD this year for my top end graphics. My friend had to blow that "simple" question out of the water by saying:

"Think of the games we used to play back in the early 2000's and remember the graphical advancement jumps. Now look at the Triple A games today.
Also, are they as much fun and complete as they used to be then? Is it worth spending £600+ on a graphics card to play incomplete games that are either cash cow micro transactions, incomplete releases with pay for the next DLC or actual in game advertises?"

Being completely objective, do we really need that much more power?
Has the graphics fidelity really gone up that much in the last 5 years?
Can we really tell when we are running and gunning?
Or is it all about "That benchmark says it's better for me so i need it" scenario?

Thoughts?
 
There's always the draw of higher resolutions and faster refresh rates, I think that is what keeps the top-end PC hardware market ticking over.

I switched to 1440p 144hz and I like it, but did I really need to? No :)
 
IF people want to play Flight Simulator 2020 on monitor like Samsung Odyssey G9 5120x1440 240Hz, then even the 3090 won't be fast enough for the absolute perfect experience :p
 
Graphical improvements might look less of a leap these days but they require more power to achieve them.
There are plenty of AAA games that are great.
Yes you can tell.
 
Turrican 2 the Final Fight, Xenon 2 Megablast, Space Harrier, The Chaos Engine, Head over Heels, Speedball 2, Monkey Island, Sensible World of Soccer, Cannon Fodder, Populus the list goes on and on and every epic and all fitted on floppy discs.

For me, the industry has gone wrong somewhere... used to be coded by a single coder, small software houses.... all the greats were, then slowly they ALL got took over... Bitmap Brothers went, Psygnoisis etc etc... all bought out and NOW it's all about churning a new "version" every year of the mainstream... I mean, how many call of duties do we actually need? It's like comic book films in Hollywood, same thing... it's about making MONEY now as opposed to the art and love of creating a game!

Don't get me wrong, there's some surperb games nowadays and we all know the graphics and sound are amazing... but sorry, 200GB of Warzone which is BADLY flawed from the time to kill, hit detection, crossplay is all over the shop etc etc... I do feel we're now just in a different era where some dudes vision won't come to fruition now because it may not make money... where is the playability...although I got into Anno 1880 recently which was a nice game... had to watch incase it sucked up my life though lol... there are great games but I don't know, it doesn't feel the same somehow??? Or is this just age?

I've not completed a single player game in 15 years... 15 years.... because nothing has really grabbed me enough to, so now I just kill stuff in first person shooters... such a shame... all this tech... and not sure I'd say we're any better now than we used to be?

Also, the absolute LACK of optimation in games is disgraceful... MS Flight Sim 2020 for example, come on, yeah it looks ok or strikign at night but that's only because you've got lights on black... BUT ultimatyly the graphics in that game aren't a patch on something like BF5... yeah different I know but the performance in 2020 flight sim is digraceful where the current fastest PC cannot run that game perfectly... it's just lazy idle coding imho. Gone are the day when you optimised so it ran right, they release games no for £60 quid and it costs you £860 quidk because you need to upgrade to even play it properly...

Bring the Speccy, Commodore 64, Amstrad 464, Acorn Electron, Atari ST, Amiga 500/600/1200 (1200 being the last of the greats before it all went wrong and conasoles rulled the world).... I do miss 8bit/16bit computing!!! I grew up in it and it's a shame the youngsters of today have missed this aspect of sheer joy of loading a game from a tape, hitting a problem, rewinding the tape then playing again...genius rofl
 
Its been a long time since you needed to buy a new graphics card to play games. Even a mid range card can play every game fine (personal opinion regarding fps etc aside) long gone are the days when you know you needed to upgrade when new games coming out which reduced you to 15fps or less.
 
I'm not at all convinced state of the art GPU hardware and AAA games are any more fun and entertaining than games of 10 even 20 years ago. Streetfighter II was brilliant, as was Wing Commander II, the original Quake, Unreal Tournament, Starcraft etc. Hell, even Chuckie Egg on the Spectrum was good. Is it worth dropping hundreds, even thousands of quid on modern titles?

Well, it's all about the opportunity cost. Instead of spending £1500 on a gaming setup, what could you do instead with that money? Put it towards, car, house deposit, holiday, bike, piano lessons for the kids? Everyone makes this calculation, even subconsciously when making significant purchases, and obviously the 'right' answer is different for different people.
 
You really have to decide if you are doing this to play games or watch the fps counter.

If its about games ask yourself this....why are you buying a new gpu for your inadequate pc? Have you considered a console?

If its about watching fos counter ask your this... have you upgrade the rest of you pc to accommodate the gpu? And can you afford it? I'm talking about completely gutting you PC case.

Some will be surprised how well zen 3 platforms will perform against what's out now. And they will wish they waited 1st
For many this won't be just a GPU purchase as they will need to upgrade the pc.
 
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pugheaven said:
Turrican 2 the Final Fight, Xenon 2 Megablast, Space Harrier, The Chaos Engine, Head over Heels, Speedball 2, Monkey Island, Sensible World of Soccer, Cannon Fodder, Populus the list goes on and on and every epic and all fitted on floppy discs.
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You sir, have impeccable taste. :cool:

However, I’m not sure how many of those old classics I actually saw through to the end. Probably less than more recent games TBH.
 
ttaskmaster said:
Have you considered trying Mass Effect 3? :D
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I hated ME3, the first two games were fantastic and the second was one of my favourite games of all time. Then three came along, now I like to pretend everyone died at the end of the second game.

It isn't just the ending either, there's so much wrong with ME3 to my mind that it managed to ruin the entire series for me.

RIP BioWare.
 
Currently running an RX570 4GB and a 1080p freesync monitor and enjoying myself fine the odd time I play games. GPU cost me £90 second hand a year ago...

It's all about perspective
 
I do get where you're coming from, a lot of triple A games these days are half arsed games with more glitches and repetitive story lines. You do get the odd gem though like Horizon zero dawn which doesn't just graphically blow you away but the story line really keeps you going.

These days i find a lot of odd balls that don't get the attention they deserve like wasteland 3 was a game i started recently thats been keeping me going after horizon zero dawn.
 
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