PS5 pricing vs Nvidia 3000 series

ShakeNBake · 16 Sep 2020 at 22:12

£450 with 4k blu ray drive, £360 without.

This is actually pretty spicy.

Why pay £470+ for a 4k capable GPU, when you can drop £450 on an entire console which is 4k capable?

Think this was a pretty smart move from Sony. Imagine it will tempt over a fair few people.

(Yes I know 3070 is crazy powerful compared to whatever is in the PS5, but you can't argue with the value for money the Sony is putting on the table with this console release vs Nvidia's new cards..!)

Grim5 · 16 Sep 2020 at 22:16

Wait for the RTX3060 that's coming, will be as fast as a Series X and priced around $350-$399

ShakeNBake · 16 Sep 2020 at 22:18

Grim5 said:
Wait for the RTX3060 that's coming, will be as fast as a Series X and priced around $350-$399

prolly not worth the upgrade from a 1070 tho, but time will tell.

rhysduck · 16 Sep 2020 at 22:18

ShakeNBake said:
(Yes I know 3070 is crazy powerful compared to whatever is in the PS5, but you can't argue with the value for money the Sony is putting on the table with this console release vs Nvidia's new cards..!)

Yes you can

Quite easily. You CANNOT compare the gpu in the PS5 to a 3080 or 3090. They knock socks off the PS5 with regard to gpu performance.

CAT-THE-FIFTH · 16 Sep 2020 at 22:22

Shame you will need at least a £600 PC to plug the GPU into(£300ish 8 core,£100ish B550 to get PCI-E 4.0,PCI-E 4.0 SSD,and all the other bits).

Grim5 · 16 Sep 2020 at 22:24

rhysduck said:
Yes you can Quite easily. You CANNOT compare the gpu in the PS5 to a 3080 or 3090. They knock socks off the PS5 with regard to gpu performance.

Price and performance vs PS5 below using the data we have as of today, adding in the upcoming RTX3060 with its rumoured performance.

RTX 3060: $350-$399 = 20% faster than PS5
RTX 3070: $499 = 40% faster than PS5
RTX 3080: $699 = 80% faster than PS5
RTX 3090: $1499 = 100% faster than PS5

Grim5 · 16 Sep 2020 at 22:26

Grim5 said:
Price and performance vs PS5 below using the data we have as of today, adding in the upcoming RTX3060 with its rumoured performance.

RTX 3060: $350-$399 = 20% faster than PS5
RTX 3070: $499 = 40% faster than PS5
RTX 3080: $699 = 80% faster than PS5
RTX 3090: $1499 = 100% faster than PS5

And vs the Series X

RTX 3060: $350-$399 = On par with Series X
RTX 3070: $499 = 20% faster than Series X
RTX 3080: $699 = 60% faster than Series X
RTX 3090: $1499 = 80% faster than Series X

Hedge · 16 Sep 2020 at 22:27

Well all ive seen is 3080 benchmarks on games that are old and average looking. The ps5 showcase just now showed a lot of games looking next gen so I'll wait until they make it to pc before upgrading.

In meantime ill preorder a ps5 and play em on that.

varkanoid · 16 Sep 2020 at 22:28

If you factor in PS5 games costing £50-£60 then 5 of those becomes around £300 on top of that £450/£360. A gtx 3070 playing your existing 100+ Steam library, Xbox Game Pass, Origin, Uplay etc libraries doesnt seem too bad when you put it into perspective.

Its all relative swings and roundabouts - said Dillon.

Safetytrousers · 16 Sep 2020 at 22:33

varkanoid said:
If you factor in PS5 games costing £50-£60 then 5 of those becomes around £300 on top of that £450/£360.

I used to play a game, and when I finished I'd sell it on. And buy games used. Through PS1 to 3 I bought about 2 games new. My expenditure on games basically worked out as nothing.
Try that with PC.

chaparral · 16 Sep 2020 at 22:42

ShakeNBake said:
£450 with 4k blu ray drive, £360 without.

This is actually pretty spicy.

Why pay £470+ for a 4k capable GPU, when you can drop £450 on an entire console which is 4k capable?

Think this was a pretty smart move from Sony. Imagine it will tempt over a fair few people.

(Yes I know 3070 is crazy powerful compared to whatever is in the PS5, but you can't argue with the value for money the Sony is putting on the table with this console release vs Nvidia's new cards..!)

But if someone wanted to play games on a console am guessing they would already be a console gamer and own an xbox one X or ps4 pro which are also 4k capable..

varkanoid · 16 Sep 2020 at 22:43

Safetytrousers said:
I used to play a game, and when I finished I'd sell it on. And buy games used. Through PS1 to 3 I bought about 2 games new. My expenditure on games basically worked out as nothing.
Try that with PC.

Try that on the £360 driveless PS5

ljt · 16 Sep 2020 at 22:44

its pretty obvious you'll never get the price/performance of a console with a PC.

You can't compare the cost of just a GPU with a console either because a GPU on its own is just a paperweight. You also have to factor in a 3700x CPU, mobo, RAM, and a PciE v4 nvme drive to get a price comparison.

Equally, the cost of games on console can be offset by selling on the game once finished (disc based only obv). For me personally I don't buy that many games over a year, perhaps 3 at most. If i do buy any digital it's only ever when they are on sale, or I can pick it up much cheaper on a key site.

DmitryD · 16 Sep 2020 at 22:45

ShakeNBake said:
Why pay £470+ for a 4k capable GPU, when you can drop £450 on an entire console which is 4k capable?

Because it's a walled garden run by a private company that needs to make a LOT of money from gaming to subsidise their other loss making sectors, get ready for console games to hit £99.99 very soon...

Hedge · 16 Sep 2020 at 22:52

DmitryD said:
Because it's a walled garden run by a private company that needs to make a LOT of money from gaming to subsidise their other loss making sectors, get ready for console games to hit £99.99 very soon...

Yeah that's not going to happen.

aoaaron · 16 Sep 2020 at 22:54

This is just a PC vs Console thread which has been masked as a RTX 3000 vs PS5 thread.

Really, the answers are the same as every single generation when a new console comes around.

aoaaron · 16 Sep 2020 at 22:55

Hedge said:
Well all ive seen is 3080 benchmarks on games that are old and average looking. The ps5 showcase just now showed a lot of games looking next gen so I'll wait until they make it to pc before upgrading.

In meantime ill preorder a ps5 and play em on that.

Anything that looks next gen will not be native 4K and 60fps on the PS5

They'll save the ultra graphics for the PS5 Pro.

Hedge · 16 Sep 2020 at 22:58

aoaaron said:
Anything that looks next gen will not be native 4K and 60fps on the PS5

They'll save the ultra graphics for the PS5 Pro.

I couldn't care less really as long as it looks good on my tv.. It looks like half of the stuff on pc is going down some DLSS type route so isnt "native 4k" either.

K1LaW8tt5 · 16 Sep 2020 at 22:58

Now that the "flagship" gpu is not £1200 you can buy both. Enjoy.

aoaaron · 16 Sep 2020 at 23:06

Hedge said:
I couldn't care less really as long as it looks good on my tv.. It looks like half of the stuff on pc is going down some DLSS type route so isnt "native 4k" either.

If you can't tell the difference between 30fps and 60fps, definitely go console.
I think NVIDIA would love for 'half the stuff on pc' to be going down the DLSS route but as far as I know, the number of DLSS games is a lot lower than that.

I still think that instead of people spending £2000 quid on a good gaming PC, they'd be better served and get a better visual fidelity upgrading their display to an OLED.

Consoles are good as what they do. Cheap, accessible gaming experience of limited fidelity but extremely high convienance with exceptional exclusive titles and great integration. I love that I can just press the Sony button on my PS4 Pro and it boots up a game instantly. However... when I do venture to my PC and play a bit, the gulf in class between the two experiences is huge and sometimes feels a generation apart.

PCs are high end, best of the best, crystal clear graphics, tonnes of optimisation, some extremely health modding community, multiple gameplay input methods including M&K for FPS games, multiple different resolutions, an infinite backlog library for infinite 4K-remasters and fluid silky smooth motion with VRR, Gsync, which is only now coming to consoles... but with a gigantic price tag, tonnes of fiddling about to get the best from it.. and did I mention the price tag?

If you just wanna sit down and get some casual gaming done... PS5 can be the end game easily.