AIO fan/ general fan advise after new GPU install

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Gamer2020

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Hi

I have a Corsair 220t case like the one linked below

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/cors...k-tempered-glass-cc-9011190-ww-ca-255-cs.html

It comes with 3 intake fans at the front as standard, to which I added 1 exhaust at the back. Currently having 3 intake 1 exhaust.


I have recently purchased a new G card, it is too large for the case, therefore since changing case would be a haste, I have been told that I should remove the middle front fan, to allow it to fit.

Due to having only 2 fans for intake at this stage, I was advised to install a AIO cooler for my CPU.

As for the AIO radiator fans (2 of them) - I will install at the top of my case, should these be exhausts or intakes? as I believe intake is recommended by manufacturer.

If the latter (intakes), I will have 2 front fans for intake, and 2 at the top (radiator fans for AIO), and just the one exhaust at the back - would this work? - It is a small, mid case.

Or, if the radiator fans would be fitted as exhausts this would mean I would have just the two front intakes, and 3 exhausts, 2 at the top one at the back.

Which route do I take?

I hope this makes sense.

If anyone has any alternative ideas, please feel free to advise accordingly.
 
If removing the middle fan to allow the 3080 fit you should try it, before buying a new parts

Put the removed fan at the top/exhaust.

You could also put the rear at the top/exhaust.

Then rotate your cpu cooler 90%.

What cpu cooler do you have?
 
mickyflinn said:
If removing the middle fan to allow the 3080 fit you should try it, before buying a new parts

Put the removed fan at the top/exhaust.

You could also put the rear at the top/exhaust.

Then rotate your cpu cooler 90%.

What cpu cooler do you have?
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Hi Micky, thanks for the reply.

I have a ryzen 3700x amd.
 
Gamer2020 said:
I am using the stock cooler, I think its the wraith prism...my idle temps are quite high, but I am not sure if this is due to the fan itself or that ryzen chips just get very hot in general.
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Yes they run hot and the stock cooler does an ok job, so you got some choices to make.

If you get an aio and put it at the top you want the fans pushing threw the radiator to the outside.

If you get s new case which one ?
 
mickyflinn said:
Yes they run hot and the stock cooler does an ok job, so you got some choices to make.

If you get an aio and put it at the top you want the fans pushing threw the radiator to the outside.

If you get s new case which one ?
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Thank you for your help, greatly appreciated.

Ideally I won't change case, if I kept it, and I put the fans as you mentioned (as exhausts) - do you reckon this would be fine?
 
Gamer2020 said:
Thank you for your help, greatly appreciated.

Ideally I won't change case, if I kept it, and I put the fans as you mentioned (as exhausts) - do you reckon this would be fine?
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Yes but keep an eye an the cpu and gpu temps.

You should get a better cpu cooler than the stock one.
 
If I had this problem, I would have used arctic cpu cooler and 2 front intakes and one back and one top exhaust.

Most likely would have been just as good.
Or top fan as intake.
Bottom line is stock cpu cooler is always on the edge. No matter how many intakes u have.
 
Benass said:
If I had this problem, I would have used arctic cpu cooler and 2 front intakes and one back and one top exhaust.

Most likely would have been just as good.
Or top fan as intake.
Bottom line is stock cpu cooler is always on the edge. No matter how many intakes u have.
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Hi Benass, thanks for reply.

Well, during the course of the day, I've realised that I may not have space for the watercooler, and currently don't have the funds for a new case etc.

I am left with the option of taking the middle fan out, so there will only be 2 intakes, and then moving the removed fan and adding it to the top as an exhaust, therefore having 2 intakes, 2 exhausts. Do you think that would be alright? - or perhaps I can even purchase another fan, to add to the top, meaning Ill have 2 front intakes, and 3 exhausts (2 top, and 1 rear)

If anyone knows if this would be sufficient, since it is a small case after all, or if I should just invest in a new case. Thank you.
 
Run some experiments with two front I takes and one top intake, and one back exhausts.

And then try top fan as exhausts.

See which way u get better readings.

And consider upgrading your cpu cooler to artic freezer sports. It is relatively cheap cooler but does much much better job then stock cooler.
 
Gamer2020 said:
Alright - I'll go with the h100i pro xt AIO for the CPU
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That's brand and fashion overpriced for such rather small slim radiator.
Arctic is only one in Freezer II serie who doesn't try to pour marketing pee down the throats of the buyers and has actually beefy 50% thicker radiators with good surface area.
Though not exactly good for smaller cases.


Gamer2020 said:
I am left with the option of taking the middle fan out, so there will only be 2 intakes, and then moving the removed fan and adding it to the top as an exhaust, therefore having 2 intakes, 2 exhausts. Do you think that would be alright? - or perhaps I can even purchase another fan, to add to the top, meaning Ill have 2 front intakes, and 3 exhausts (2 top, and 1 rear)
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Might be best to have frontmost top fan as intake.
It being exhaust could easily just "short circuit"/draw out upper front fan's airflow before it has cooled anything.

And definitely move that lower front fan upward as much as graphics card allows.
Things under marketing BS shroud don't need really any cooling and airflow to there is wasted airflow.


As for good amount better CPU cooler than stock cooler doesn't cost more than £21
https://www.overclockers.co.uk/arctic-freezer-34-cpu-cooler-120mm-hs-077-ar.html

From available ones fitting into case Scythe Mugen 5 would be very beefy for it's reasonable size and step behind best cooler.
https://www.overclockers.co.uk/search?sSearch=mugen+5
Only question would be in fit of Intel optimized some amount convex base with AMD's flat/possibly tiny smidge convex from center heatspreader.
Though that could be solved by grinding cooler's base flat with some sandpapers, piece of glass/fully flat surface and few hours of work.
 
EsaT said:
That's brand and fashion overpriced for such rather small slim radiator.
Arctic is only one in Freezer II serie who doesn't try to pour marketing pee down the throats of the buyers and has actually beefy 50% thicker radiators with good surface area.
Though not exactly good for smaller cases.


Might be best to have frontmost top fan as intake.
It being exhaust could easily just "short circuit"/draw out upper front fan's airflow before it has cooled anything.

And definitely move that lower front fan upward as much as graphics card allows.
Things under marketing BS shroud don't need really any cooling and airflow to there is wasted airflow.


As for good amount better CPU cooler than stock cooler doesn't cost more than £21
https://www.overclockers.co.uk/arctic-freezer-34-cpu-cooler-120mm-hs-077-ar.html

From available ones fitting into case Scythe Mugen 5 would be very beefy for it's reasonable size and step behind best cooler.
https://www.overclockers.co.uk/search?sSearch=mugen+5
Only question would be in fit of Intel optimized some amount convex base with AMD's flat/possibly tiny smidge convex from center heatspreader.
Though that could be solved by grinding cooler's base flat with some sandpapers, piece of glass/fully flat surface and few hours of work.
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Thanks so much for your input.



I think that I will order an extra fan, and put it at the top rear, near the other exhaust. Then I will move the middle fan to the top front, therefore having 3 intakes, and the 2 exhausts at the back (and I will move the bottom fan as upwards as possible to allow it to directly give air to the GPU)

(Or do you mean that having both an intake and a exhaust at the top would be counterproductive, and that I should just have the one exhaust as is currently? and just move the middle fan to the top front

Thanks everyone once again, greatly appreciate all help and advise.
 
Gamer2020 said:
No worries mate, I do appreciate your help.

Do you think what I posted lasted would be alright? Do you approve? :p
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It's just basic thermodynamics, as long as you follow the basic rules you should be ok.

1. Heat rises

2. Air likes to flow in the same direction.

So the idea is, you generally want 2 faces of the case acting as intake, the opposite two face as exhaust. This isn't always possible due to case design, but try and achieve that. Keeping in mind that heat rises, you you want to try and aim the airflow upwards.

Theoretically, if you had a case you could mount 12 fans on, you put 3 in the front and bottom as intake, 3 in the rear and top as exhaust = perfect airflow. Cold air enters from the front and bottom, gets hot and the natural effect of heats compounds with the direction of air flow.

There is also positive pressure (which somewhat contradicts the above) the theory is, if the air pressure is higher than the ambient room pressure, which is achieved by having more intake, then exhaust, it'll discourage dust entering the case through gaps. How much actually effect that has in practice I'm not sure.

Also in your specific situation, your using the stock cooler, pretty much any aftermarket air cooler will be far superior, and will probably solve your issue regardless of where your case fans are.
 
BUDFORCE said:
It's just basic thermodynamics, as long as you follow the basic rules you should be ok.

1. Heat rises

2. Air likes to flow in the same direction.

So the idea is, you generally want 2 faces of the case acting as intake, the opposite two face as exhaust. This isn't always possible due to case design, but try and achieve that. Keeping in mind that heat rises, you you want to try and aim the airflow upwards.

Theoretically, if you had a case you could mount 12 fans on, you put 3 in the front and bottom as intake, 3 in the rear and top as exhaust = perfect airflow. Cold air enters from the front and bottom, gets hot and the natural effect of heats compounds with the direction of air flow.

There is also positive pressure (which somewhat contradicts the above) the theory is, if the air pressure is higher than the ambient room pressure, which is achieved by having more intake, then exhaust, it'll discourage dust entering the case through gaps. How much actually effect that has in practice I'm not sure.

Also in your specific situation, your using the stock cooler, pretty much any aftermarket air cooler will be far superior, and will probably solve your issue regardless of where your case fans are.
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Thank you mate, makes sense.
 
mickyflinn said:
Hi @Gamer2020 have you decided what you going to get all water cooler or air cooler?
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I think due to my case being a small one, and my ram size, an AIO won't fit. I will probably upgrade to a better air cooler for the CPU, but after watching some videos / reading reviews, the better ones don't offer that much advantage over mine, however it is still an upgrade so I will defo consider it. My main concern is how I am going to re arrange the fans, as if the actual temperature in the case is hot itself, I doubt the CPU cooler will be my problem.

Basically, I am going to move the middle fan to the front top, and monitor my temperatures, I wanted to buy an extra fan as an additional exhaust but I think putting both and exhaust at the top rear, along with the newly placed top front intake may conflict each other, so I might not put the exhaust in, and just simply move the middle fan to the top front alone.

(I am even confusing myself at this point, I think a simple diagram would help everyone out here haha)

But thanks for still sticking with me @mickyflinn - I am very thankful that you are helping me out here.
 
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