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Ampere... what a disastrous launch!

Th0nt said:
Like I said, a joke then. Only @MissChief seems to disagree lol (and struggles with facts yet still defending the hill).
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Oh absolutely there weren’t enough cards to go around but plenty of people have received cards. Obviously knowing actual numbers would be helpful but even just here there are hundreds of if not thousands waiting on cards. Nvidia would have had to wait until November to meet this demand which they could never have foreseen. To call it a Paper Launch just isn’t correct. I’ve seen them, no availability whatsoever despite having launched days or weeks ago and months for any actually buyable numbers of product.
 
MissChief said:
Oh absolutely there weren’t enough cards to go around but plenty of people have received cards. Obviously knowing actual numbers would be helpful but even just here there are hundreds of if not thousands waiting on cards. Nvidia would have had to wait until November to meet this demand which they could never have foreseen. To call it a Paper Launch just isn’t correct. I’ve seen them, no availability whatsoever despite having launched days or weeks ago and months for any actually buyable numbers of product.
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So like the thread title says - 'what a disastrous launch!'. I agree, you seemed to be partial to excusing them for oh its nvidia boys c'mon it was 10x the usual launch (which you have no facts to prove). :p
 
MissChief said:
Oh absolutely there weren’t enough cards to go around but plenty of people have received cards. Obviously knowing actual numbers would be helpful but even just here there are hundreds of if not thousands waiting on cards. Nvidia would have had to wait until November to meet this demand which they could never have foreseen. To call it a Paper Launch just isn’t correct. I’ve seen them, no availability whatsoever despite having launched days or weeks ago and months for any actually buyable numbers of product.
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It's that much of a paper launch the paper has also now disappeared.
 
Cooper said:
Part of the problem is we are seeing pent up demand from two generations of people upgrading, those that skipped Turing and those that upgrade every generation.
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dont forget somer big game releases this year too Cyperpunk 2077, arguably creed, bio-mutant, Watch dogs, Baldurs Gate,
 
Journey said:
There is/was no stock, end of story. The launch was 'fake news' having spoken with several suppliers they all basically said no stock in September to speak of 4+ weeks before any proper number are around and 3+ months to clear back orders if they remain at the level they are now.
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Ok Donald
 
Surely they could’ve done a pre-order like the consoles to at least gauge the demand. Obviously it’s not an exact science but they could at least see how short they were going to be and maybe give themselves a bit more breathing space to manufacture more?

Still, they obviously knew what they were doing and all the blame was shifted to bots and scalpers rather than available stock levels. The thing that annoys me is the price creep though. You don’t get it anywhere else I.e. with consoles so why is it a thing with PC components?! Yet people still pay the higher prices. :(
 
I think back to the last time when I bought a card, (a 1080) and it went like this:

1) Tried to order on release day on OcUK, website kept crashing
2) Eventually somehow managed to place an order later in the day
3) Lots of people posting on the forums asking when they would get their cards
4) Very few people posting pictures of their cards, lots of people grumbling there's no stock anywhere
5) People started trying to figure out what position they were in the queue
6) 3-4 weeks in, and people started getting really angry about it
7) Some competitor websites started to get stock in, but it's anywhere from £50-150 higher than the OcUK price
8) 5-6 weeks in, loads of people start giving up and placing a new order somewhere else
9) 2-3 months in, everything starts to settle down across all retailers

I think we're on step 5 currently.
 
caff said:
I think back to the last time when I bought a card, (a 1080) and it went like this:

1) Tried to order on release day on OcUK, website kept crashing
2) Eventually somehow managed to place an order later in the day
3) Lots of people posting on the forums asking when they would get their cards
4) Very few people posting pictures of their cards, lots of people grumbling there's no stock anywhere
5) People started trying to figure out what position they were in the queue
6) 3-4 weeks in, and people started getting really angry about it
7) Some competitor websites started to get stock in, but it's anywhere from £50-150 higher than the OcUK price
8) 5-6 weeks in, loads of people start giving up and placing a new order somewhere else
9) 3-6 months in, everything starts to settle down across all retailers

I think we're on step 5 currently.
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Corrected it for this launch
 
According to another thread on this forum there have been around 7-8 THOUSAND orders for 3080 cards with MSI, Gigabyte and Asus cards being the most popular with in some cases 1,500+ orders for particular variants. At OCUK alone. Across the UK there could have been 25 thousand or more orders. No way could nvidia have made that many cards without delaying the launch. Yes they severely underestimated demand, but that demand was and is far beyond anyone expected. People call it a paper launch but cards were available, OCUK had several hundred across different brands but they all sold out in minutes.
 
The web is going to be FLOODED with 3080s for sale, the price of 3080s is going to be able 1000 for ages and ages, well into next year. They'll only drop when no one wants them because they're buying a 3080 ti or whatever they call it.
 
willhub said:
The web is going to be FLOODED with 3080s for sale, the price of 3080s is going to be able 1000 for ages and ages, well into next year. They'll only drop when no one wants them because they're buying a 3080 ti or whatever they call it.
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Agree, the wave of large memory cards will cause an imbalance but not enough to stop the gouging, maybe some will cancel to try and snap up the 3080 20Gb for example.

What's the worst part? People were calling this a great gen as the cards were supposed to be back in line for pricing. If your willing to pay extra to get your hands on one then its game over to seeing reasonable prices - you have given Jensen carte blanche for the forseeable.
 
Just been told by a friend of a friend who wanted a card, he was going to pre-order as he was building a new system for MSF 2020, he called and spoke with a member of staff (not going to name the SI) at the place and explained the scenario hoping to get all the parts at once, they said if he ordered the system from them he'd get his card way sooner and effectively skip the queue entirely as they are prioritising full builds not one off cards.

Talk about shady for anyone in a queue, pretty sure the place isn't the only one doing that either. :mad::mad::mad:
 
caff said:
I think back to the last time when I bought a card, (a 1080) and it went like this:

1) Tried to order on release day on OcUK, website kept crashing
2) Eventually somehow managed to place an order later in the day
3) Lots of people posting on the forums asking when they would get their cards
4) Very few people posting pictures of their cards, lots of people grumbling there's no stock anywhere
5) People started trying to figure out what position they were in the queue
6) 3-4 weeks in, and people started getting really angry about it
7) Some competitor websites started to get stock in, but it's anywhere from £50-150 higher than the OcUK price
8) 5-6 weeks in, loads of people start giving up and placing a new order somewhere else
9) 2-3 months in, everything starts to settle down across all retailers

I think we're on step 5 currently.
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Honestly I thought the 1080 launch was ok I think I put an order in (not on OC) about a week into launch got it 2 days laters..
 
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