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The reason for RTX30 stock shortages?

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From all I have learned over the past few days about the supply issues with the RTX30 series, I am left coming to only one conclusion, and that is the fault lies squarely with nVidia / Samsung and the GPU wafer fab.

Foxconn who assemble the boards are capable of assembling massively complex boards like the iPhone - far more populated than GPU, and they can do that in the quantities measured by the millions. I'm not seeing any mention of component shortages such as GDDR6x as happened with the previous generation.

The ampere platform is not specific to GPUs either, nVidia is using this in many other chips, and there is no suggestion of shortages of those, granted it's not the entire same chip, but it is the same technology and if Samsung can turn these out in reasonable volumes there's no good reason they can't be capable of turning out reasonable volumes.

Which leave only one realistic conclusion, that nVidia are holding back on GPUs because of the perceived threat from AMD big Navi, and they don't want to get ambushed like they were in the middle of the RTX20 run by AMD pulling the rug from under them on price and forcing them to release a 'super' version of the card. Big Navi launches 28th October, and very recent rumours suggest it will compete on Graphics power with the RTX3080, and that nVidia are going to up the memory to 16GB and 20GB just to stay in the game.

https://www.techradar.com/news/amd-big-navi-might-still-be-faster-than-the-rtx-3080

https://www.techradar.com/news/nvid...ent-attack-on-amds-big-navi-and-midrange-gpus

It would appear to me, that this is a deliberate corporate action on behalf of nVidia who are running scared of what AMD are going to bring to the table, the GPU power it will have, the memory and the Wattage it will draw.

Who here would be happy to find that the card they bought, is now the same price with double the GDDR ?
 
My view - it was a paper launch with a rushed availability date.
Production could be at max but there was little time to build an large enough inventory to meet the demand and supply.
 
Unlikely it would be the same price with double RAM, and also unlikely that AMD will have something on par with 3080. Maybe close, but I suspect it won't beat it
 
It's all about making as much money as possible. Restricting supply justifies the ridic prices being charged. Early adopters seem happy to get ripped off, so why wouldn't companies oblige? I don't think they intended to miss the mark by so far though, surely missed out on a lot of sales.
 
SDK^ said:
My view - it was a paper launch with a rushed availability date.
Production could be at max but there was little time to build an large enough inventory to meet the demand and supply.
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Ampere was announced back in March, 6 months ago. Production on all Turing GPUs had ceased by 15th July If that's too little time I don't know how much they needed.
 
Production did not start until sometime in August. Takes time for the factories to ramp up. Nvidia had a date in mine for launch ready or not supply wise.
 
My view - demand has massively outstripped supply and was a little unexpected. This also covers issue with manufacturing of course. Failing that, Trumps fault :D.
NV have said they have been ramping up manufacturing since August. Would be interesting to know how many cards sold & delivered to date but we'll never know that.

I don't think AMD have anything to do with it, personally. 20 series was a so-so launch (unpopular) but wasn't there also short supply for a while?

Can speculate but few know the real truth, probably. The obvious answer is the most likely case.
 
vasuba said:
Production did not start until sometime in August. Takes time for the factories to ramp up. Nvidia had a date in mine for launch ready or not supply wise.
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All the references I've seen indicate Ampere production began at Samsung in March and Ampere GPU production began in early to mid July where is your information about August coming from ?
 
I think this launch was terrible because they rushed it and all other companies like Asus, Gigabyte, Msi etc. had no time to produce enough GPUs. It is known that nVidia sent the boards to manufacturers in August so clearly there was not enough time.
They rushed the launch so it's before all the new gen consoles and also AMD's big Navi GPUs.
It kinda backfired as the demand was higher than expected and now we have a global 3000 series GPU famine. :)
 
Flake87 said:
All the references I've seen indicate Ampere production began at Samsung in March and Ampere GPU production began in early to mid July where is your information about August coming from ?
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Something must have happened after March... You know, like a global pandemic. I can’t understand how everyone seems to have forgotten the state of the world in March/April.
 
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