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Is the RTX 3090 a rip off for £1,400?

Anyone with any sense will see this. 10% wouldn't even be noticeable. The 3080 at £649 makes much more sense. I'm really most interested to see what AMD bring it and how that affects the perception of Nvidia's pricing.

Interested to see the benchmarks but no chance I’m buying one. Reduce one setting on a 3080 and you have a 3090 practically.

Agreed I’m waiting for AMD benchmarks, although I’ll likely wait for next gen before upgrading.
 
Interested to see the benchmarks but no chance I’m buying one. Reduce one setting on a 3080 and you have a 3090 practically.

Agreed I’m waiting for AMD benchmarks, although I’ll likely wait for next gen before upgrading.

That actually makes a lot more sense. Many of the settings make very little impact on IQ if you turn them down a notch or two. I used the HUB settings for RDR2 and it runs very well with minimal impact on the visuals.
 
techpowerup gave this a highly recommended tag, that was a big reminder they effectively not been honest.

The card had circa 10-20% performance gain over their 3080 and they consider it a good deal, even worse they ramped it up to 480 watts which is absolutely insane and it gave them 2% performance, this should have been marked as a con but they put the 480w limit under pro's, they conveniently omitted the 480w config from the perf/watt graph.

Gone are the days where more power is good, you just accelerating degradation of components and trashing your perf/watt. My cpu is under volted, my gpu is 90% power limit.

I am not surprised nvidia puts in voltage protection, I expect if it was all unlocked people would be pumping massive voltage and 600w through their cards to gain 5%.
 
The top few percent of performers in the silicon lottery are, by definition, rate. So if you want one, expect to pay for it! The 3090 is not good value for money, but people that buy it are not interested in that. For me this price is out of reach but I wouldn't call it a rip off. NVidia can charge whatever people are willing to pay for it. I am sure the profits on the top end cards go some way to allowing cards further down the performance ladder to be offered at a cheaper price.
 
techpowerup gave this a highly recommended tag, that was a big reminder they effectively not been honest.

The card had circa 10-20% performance gain over their 3080 and they consider it a good deal, even worse they ramped it up to 480 watts which is absolutely insane and it gave them 2% performance, this should have been marked as a con but they put the 480w limit under pro's, they conveniently omitted the 480w config from the perf/watt graph.

Gone are the days where more power is good, you just accelerating degradation of components and trashing your perf/watt. My cpu is under volted, my gpu is 90% power limit.

I am not surprised nvidia puts in voltage protection, I expect if it was all unlocked people would be pumping massive voltage and 600w through their cards to gain 5%.

Their recommended was for a specific user and within the context of 3090s, seems fair enough to me
 
The top few percent of performers in the silicon lottery are, by definition, rate. So if you want one, expect to pay for it! The 3090 is not good value for money, but people that buy it are not interested in that. For me this price is out of reach but I wouldn't call it a rip off. NVidia can charge whatever people are willing to pay for it. I am sure the profits on the top end cards go some way to allowing cards further down the performance ladder to be offered at a cheaper price.

It's good value for money of your job is rendering - the 3090 can render frames faster, and since time is money in the film industry, it could pay for itself in time saved (and hence money). Jenson himself said that the 3090 was aimed at the "content creator", not the gamer.
 
It's good value for money of your job is rendering - the 3090 can render frames faster, and since time is money in the film industry, it could pay for itself in time saved (and hence money). Jenson himself said that the 3090 was aimed at the "content creator", not the gamer.
Good point. Don't think it outperforms the 3080 by much apart from tests that require the extra memory though
 
The strix out performs the 3080 by 20% which is pretty decent, the step up in cost less so.

What's interesting is that they had to open up the power limit to 390w to get that increase over a standard 3090, makes me wonder if any power de-restricted 3080s will surface that might hit 3090 perf at a lower price point, I don't care about consumption, just the performance.
 
The strix out performs the 3080 by 20% which is pretty decent, the step up in cost less so.

What's interesting is that they had to open up the power limit to 390w to get that increase over a standard 3090, makes me wonder if any power de-restricted 3080s will surface that might hit 3090 perf at a lower price point, I don't care about consumption, just the performance.

Plus for those who care, the Strix has a massive power slider and if you have good cooling you should be able to get another 10% out of it.

Personally I wouldn't bother but for those people who already have big radiator in their custom loop can just drop the card in for a pretty good increase over a 3080 and massive increase over the 2080ti. The Strix 3090 is already over 55% faster than the 2080ti but under water with max power limit it would +- 65%
 
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Plus for those who care, the Strix has a massive power slider and if you have good cooling you should be able to get another 10% out of it.

Personally I wouldn't bother but for those people who already have big radiator in their custom loop can just drop the card in for a pretty good increase over a 3080 and massive increase over the 2080ti. The Strix 3090 is already over 55% faster than the 2080ti but under water with max power limit it would +- 65%

Stop it. I’ve decided today to wait for a while.

You carry on and I’ll bloody pre-order a Strix OC 3090!
 
The Strix 3090 is already over 55% faster than the 2080ti but under water with max power limit it would +- 65%
But not if the 2080ti is also water cooled

Also remember you can pickup a 2080ti for around £500 to £600 ..
A Strix ROG 3090 plus a water is going cost around £1850 so it cost about £1300 more then someone could buy a 2080ti for
 
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Didn’t they do a ROG Matrix 2080Ti AIO?

That’d make a nice 3090, though probably not the price! :D
 
Their recommended was for a specific user and within the context of 3090s, seems fair enough to me

They need to specify that, instead they acting like media darlings and just generically recommending all models, that doesnt help someone deciding which one is better choice.

It is a bit like someone reviewing the entire car market and then just blanket recommending all of them.
 
The strix out performs the 3080 by 20% which is pretty decent, the step up in cost less so.

What's interesting is that they had to open up the power limit to 390w to get that increase over a standard 3090, makes me wonder if any power de-restricted 3080s will surface that might hit 3090 perf at a lower price point, I don't care about consumption, just the performance.

Is that a different review? the one I mentioned had the jump from 350w to 480w add a tiny 2%. This was the strix card as that is the only one with that power limit.
 
Is that a different review? the one I mentioned had the jump from 350w to 480w add a tiny 2%. This was the strix card as that is the only one with that power limit.

The stock 3090 comes with 350w limit which is barely more power than allowed on 3080s hence stocl cards being less impressive, the strix opens that up in its preset OC to 390w which allows it to perfom better than all other 3090s, it then allows you to take it further to 480w where it shows the marginal 2% increase over 390w, the mistake in this review is not showing stock 3090 numbers on any page but the board limits page, so whilst the oc to 480 looks weak (but this could be other limits in play like thermals) at 390w the Strix is better than everything else.
 
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It's good value for money of your job is rendering - the 3090 can render frames faster, and since time is money in the film industry, it could pay for itself in time saved (and hence money). Jenson himself said that the 3090 was aimed at the "content creator", not the gamer.
Long gone are the days when we got a gaming architecture for graphics cards. Now we just get a compute card twisted into a gremlin of a gpu
 
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