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AMD Zen 3 (5000 Series), rumored 17% IPC gain.
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Spot on, for the vast majority of users a decent ~£150 B550 board is likely the best choice.
Ohhhhhh that sounds interesting! I've always been intel and the 11900k would be ideal but I'm not sure I can last that long as we have no idea when they will be out, so I hope AMDs offering is good.
Q1 '21 at the earliest, and it's very likely to be slower than the 10900K "if" the decide to release one to match it. Your actual new CPU's will be 2022-23 that will be worth looking at Intel are in a total shambles right now.
There are quite a few about, just used a few of the Gigabyte Aorus ones in some Threadripoer builds, they take up to 4 drives each and use a 16x slot, but you can get small ones as well.
Whats the model so can search , I only found PCI-E 3.0 M.2 expansion cards for a few quid
If you mean the small one then something like a IB-PCI224M2-ARGB
Yeah small not bad was expecting it to cost more, thanks
I've been using cards like that for a long time now, even had some 4-way ones back in 2016 before most people had even heard of M.2 or NVMe, not many systems supported bifurcation of 16x slots back then though, it was a specialist BIOS job, or a custom needed to be written, cost a pretty penny.
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In what way is it ideal?
Being 100% honest with you mate I've been intel for a long time and the thought of change is scary, especially as the games I play benefit from the good IPC Intel's have. Also I've heard overclocking can be a nightmare with the AMDs/Ram etc and the BIOS's. I could be mistaken though and happy to be corrected. I am very much open to change though
Being 100% honest with you mate I've been intel for a long time and the thought of change is scary, especially as the games I play benefit from the good IPC Intel's have. Also I've heard overclocking can be a nightmare with the AMDs/Ram etc and the BIOS's. I could be mistaken though and happy to be corrected. I am very much open to change though
Overclocking with mine was a simple as set the multi to 44x, voltage to 1.325v and llc to high. Enable xmp and go.
Being 100% honest with you mate I've been intel for a long time and the thought of change is scary, especially as the games I play benefit from the good IPC Intel's have. Also I've heard overclocking can be a nightmare with the AMDs/Ram etc and the BIOS's. I could be mistaken though and happy to be corrected. I am very much open to change though
I can totally see your perspective and I was very hesitant going from my 4790k to a 3600. However, it didn't dissapoint.
Overclocking isn't that different from Intel and is now easy thanks to a new tool here
https://forums.overclockers.co.uk/threads/ryzen-clocktuner.18896693/
The results are very impressive, even on my 3600 and super easy. Just run it and let it finish.
That's pretty much what I did but after running CTR, I think I can drop the voltage lower but maintain 4.4ghz.
Are you running a 3900x?
No, 3600
Ah fair enough! I have a 3600 in my itx system, but left that at stock due to only having a 120 AIO cooler
I'm pretty sure there won't be a new chipset for Zen 3, but I am fairly certain we'll see a refreshed X570. Might not get a new name though. X570 was a dog's dinner of a product; excessive use of PCIe retimers just to maintain signal integrity, the PCH was in-house design based on the Zen 2 IO die and then backported to GloFo 16nm (of all things) because Asmedia couldn't get theirs out in time and still variable in VRM counts and quality. It needs updating, with a couple of upgrades maybe for new tech. Why do I think it'll be refreshed rather than a new chipset?
Zen 3 has improved memory and IF speeds (I think)
B550 was late so is still relatively new
A520 practically just landed
TRX40 boards have massively re-engineered PCIe 4 signalling to not need retimers, so board designers now know how to do it properly
B550 VRMs are monstrous (see engineer knowledge above)
A520 VRMs are surprisingly solid
Asus added USB 3.2 to their refreshed B450 boards
Wrap all of this up and bang out X570X (just to **** off Intel because the 3rd refresh of X299 is X229X
), or maybe X590. Even with these improvements, I don't think there's enough of a change to call it a new chipset.
Zen 3 has improved memory and IF speeds (I think)
B550 was late so is still relatively new
A520 practically just landed
TRX40 boards have massively re-engineered PCIe 4 signalling to not need retimers, so board designers now know how to do it properly
B550 VRMs are monstrous (see engineer knowledge above)
A520 VRMs are surprisingly solid
Asus added USB 3.2 to their refreshed B450 boards
Wrap all of this up and bang out X570X (just to **** off Intel because the 3rd refresh of X299 is X229X
), or maybe X590. Even with these improvements, I don't think there's enough of a change to call it a new chipset.Well if AMD had released B550 and A520 alongside zen 2 rather than over a year late then people who didn't want to pay over the odds for X570 with features they didn't need wouldn't have turned to the older boards.
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Well if the 8 core chip has better latency than the 12 core chip I guess it will show up in all reviews, whether that's better performance for just gaming and latency over the 12 core I guess we'll see.
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