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AMD Zen 3 (5000 Series), rumored 17% IPC gain.

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Exactly, and power equals heat. I've sat in 30°C gaming, it's not healthy :p
30c? Dude that's nothing. 35c+ in high humidity is when it starts to really get hard. I remember a guy on the forums saying that in SUmmer he games in a wet tshirt with a fan blowing on him... that made me laugh. :D
 
30c? Dude that's nothing. 35c+ in high humidity is when it starts to really get hard. I remember a guy on the forums saying that in SUmmer he games in a wet tshirt with a fan blowing on him... that made me laugh. :D

Sounds like Pacific coast of Costa Rica to me :cool: locals digging the hotel garden whilst I'm in the pool. Too much for my English blood! I like my comfort when I'm using a PC ;) That guy needs to invest in some AC, wish I could justify the cost. I just open the window instead :)
 
Sounds like Pacific coast of Costa Rica to me :cool: locals digging the hotel garden whilst I'm in the pool. Too much for my English blood! I like my comfort when I'm using a PC ;) That guy needs to invest in some AC, wish I could justify the cost. I just open the window instead :)
The installation is expensive, but the running cost of current day wall mounted units are very low as they are so energy efficient. You’re talking a 60W light bulb on the lowest setting On a normal days temperature.

My air con unit cost £1400 for installation and the unit inside and outside the house.
 
Worth every penny, we got the bedroom and office/gaming room done a couple of years ago, and with the last two hot summers it's been a godsend, especially for working from home.
Amen, had mine three years now and as I work from home I use it everyday. Sometimes use the heating mode too briefly first thing in the morning on cold days.
 
After this summer's heatwave, I'm not looking for new ways of heating my gaming space!

Did you order a 3080? :p

The installation is expensive, but the running cost of current day wall mounted units are very low as they are so energy efficient. You’re talking a 60W light bulb on the lowest setting On a normal days temperature.

My air con unit cost £1400 for installation and the unit inside and outside the house.

Jesus, is that living on the Costa del Norfolk Broads that warm? :D
 
Did you order a 3080? :p
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Well well well, if it isn't the consequences of my own actions... :p

I did indeed, but that's kinda my point, I can't afford another 3-400W pumping out into the room; my warm room budget has already been spent (assuming my 3080 ever arrives, that is).
 
We need competition to take us out of this - we need more than 8 cores to be lower tiers.

why?

For gaming 12/16/24/32 cores wont make much different over 8 cores, but on the flip side a performance improvement on per core helps gaming.

8+ cores is pretty much content creator territory, I agree with AMD if they said its enthusiast.
 
why?

For gaming 12/16/24/32 cores wont make much different over 8 cores, but on the flip side a performance improvement on per core helps gaming.

8+ cores is pretty much content creator territory, I agree with AMD if they said its enthusiast.
I think it's clear that 8 cores is becoming the standard mid range config now for AMD in both desktops and laptops. Next year Intel will follow suit.
 
why?

For gaming 12/16/24/32 cores wont make much different over 8 cores, but on the flip side a performance improvement on per core helps gaming.

8+ cores is pretty much content creator territory, I agree with AMD if they said its enthusiast.

Why do you use gaming as an example when you know that games don't stress the CPUs properly but are rather heavily GPU limited?

With 5000 series AMD offered a little bit higher performance for relatively more money. This is not progress by any means, only expansion of the current 3000 lineup.


Next year is Zen 3 Refresh or Warhol, and only in 2022 AMD could bring Zen 4.
But under question because according to the leaked roadmap, Zen 4-based Raphael will drop the chiplets design and be monolithic APU with Navi graphics.
 
Absolutely, for me Intel's power consumption and associated heat makes it totally uncompetitive.
I really don't get it when people say this. Every time I see any comparison on youtube etc, the AMD is always the hotter chip.
As I hope to be going Ryzen soon, thats the one thing that I am concerned with, being as quiet and cool are something I like to maintain :)
 
I really don't get it when people say this. Every time I see any comparison on youtube etc, the AMD is always the hotter chip.
As I hope to be going Ryzen soon, thats the one thing that I am concerned with, being as quiet and cool are something I like to maintain :)

As it happens you are sort of correct. AMD 2 does run hot, but only when you are hammering the cpu in Prime 95, or OCCT with AVX. Otherwise, even running Realbench, my 3950x rarely get's above 65c. Is my rig "silent" ? no................neither is anyone else's regardless of what they say.
Don't worry about Ryzen temps, as long as you have half decent cooling, it will be fine.
 
I think it has more to do with the heat *density*. AMD's power consumption is low, but it's crammed into a smaller area.
 
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