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AN UNMITIGATED DISASTER

Hotwired said:
What is this angle that blames the consumer for the company's actions?
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The same angle that blames the consumer for creating this 80% monopoly in the first place. Nvidia don't need to try very hard with so many loyal customers who don't even wait for competing products anymore.

Nvidia are in the fortunate position where they can **** it up and it doesn't matter. Screw ups don't affect sales at this level of high regard.

Do you think people will teach Nvidia a lesson by reducing their market share to 50%? I don't think so. How will Nvidia learn from this? They won't because they don't need to. This 80% will buy their products regardless. So yes, I blame the consumer for that.

I'm part of AMD's 20% so I'm laughing at Nvidia's launch.
 
CuriousTomCat said:
I'm part of AMD's 20% so I'm laughing at Nvidia's launch.
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I am also part of the 20%. I tend to buy AMD cards as I am a tightwad but also generally dont need the 'features' offered by nvidia. Historically, I have owned quite a lot of graphics cards and would say its close 50/50.

If you are unhappy with nvidia this gen (due to the abysmal launch stock, drivergate, large card size and power/heat) dont forget last gen (Turing) they ripped the arse out of the pricing. If you are still buying them, then you cannot complain that its AMD's fault.
 
CuriousTomCat said:
The same angle that blames the consumer for creating this 80% monopoly in the first place.
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That's quite an angle.

Blaming the consumer for a company doing well and then blaming the consumer for the company doing badly.

At what point are you going to give the company credit for success and failure.
 
CuriousTomCat said:
But it would have delayed the launch. People would still be unhappy about that.
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How would they know? Its only a delayed launch if people are expecting a launch - if you don't announce a launch no-one's expecting one so no-one has anything to be unhappy about!

Nvidia could have launched at a later date but they wanted to get the jump on AMD and launch before they had any stock but it doesn't matter because slick marketing imprinted in everyone's minds the desire to buy a 3080 and your average joe will pay little attention to AMD's launch as they've already figured what they want and how. Total lack of any actual stock is almost irrelevant as retailers will simply take the flak until it eventually turns up.
 
Hotwired said:
That's quite an angle.

Blaming the consumer for a company doing well and then blaming the consumer for the company doing badly.

At what point are you going to give the company credit for success and failure.
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How about you buy their cards when they're a success and DONT buy them when they're a failure? That will do exactly as you describe and Nvidia will learn from that.

Out in the real world, if you're not happy with a product, you stop buying it. That's what I do anyway. Similarly, if a child is naughty, you do something about it. Actions have consequences.

Nvidia's actions however, don't have any consequences at all.

As I type this, people are frantically scouring the internet, desperately searching so they can buy Nvidia's failure.
 
Blackjack Davy said:
How would they know? Its only a delayed launch if people are expecting a launch - if you don't announce a launch no-one's expecting one so no-one has anything to be unhappy about!
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The two years ago, the 2000 series was a late launch. Even the announcement was late compared to other launches. There were YouTube videos asking what Nvidia were planning, there wasn't anything at all. So people were still unhappy.
 
What funny is that this happens every single time and people still act like it's brand new.

It'll all settle down in 6 months, meanwhile for the impatient in the queue, enjoy the **** fight.
 
Just anecdotal evidence about the unprecedented demand: I sold my 2080 on Ebay yesterday for 450£ (was lucky to get a 3080FE last Monday).

The auction only lasted 3 days and had 51 watchers after the first day alone. Never seen that much interest on a GPU.
 
james.miller said:
Cancel it, move on. Don't let it upset you. vote with your wallet, because that's the only thing nvidia are really interested in and it's the only way they'll learn.
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This. Come back in a couple of months when the fiasco is over. Don't give anyone a cent until they can come up with the goods.
 
razorpakk said:
Just anecdotal evidence about the unprecedented demand: I sold my 2080 on Ebay yesterday for 450£ (was lucky to get a 3080FE last Monday).

The auction only lasted 3 days and had 51 watchers after the first day alone. Never seen that much interest on a GPU.
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Probably the miners snapping up awesome cuda crunchers for a third of the price they were selling for.
 
Well i have a 3080 Aorus Extreme arriving tomorrow or monday that i ordered today.

The MSI will go to my friend who didnt get in the queue on day 1.

Sucks to be in those huge queues
 
Roadrunner_668 said:
wow i had no idea !

i always thought amd were a fairly high percentage !
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Only for enthusiasts that know how to weigh up basic metrics and can uninstall a driver to a previous one, oh and dont mind changing voltages/fan curves etc - otherwise stick to nvidia. ;)
 
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