UEFA Champions & Europa League Football Thread ** spoilers ** [27th-29th Oct 2020]
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Did you forget the Chelsea game?
Martin Keown described him as an outstanding young manager.
I'm sure he will learn from the humping his team just took. Outsmarted by our PE Teacher
Too many plastic fans
One bad result and it's the end of the world
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No I didn't. Fat Frank never wanted to play the game and set out to be a bore fest. I hope this weekend will not be the same as Pulis will set up Arsenal the same.
You make it sound like you don't set up the same way, 5atb is just terrible.
Plus you forget being 15th in the league
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He was a great player, but as a person, am I the only one who feels thoroughly depressed by Scholes? He seems so devoid of any joy. Permanently looks miserable. I can’t remember the last time I saw him smile.
I think the last time he smiled was when he called Robbie Savage a ****head live on BT Sport.
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At least Savage has a ******* laugh now and then!
Imagine having to manage Salford
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I suppose so. I think even being in Salford would give me the hump
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Nagelsmanns jacket is tripping me out!
Pretty sure he smiled when Ferdinand was talking, he's always been a quiet lad tbh not sure punditry is for him
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You make it sound like you don't set up the same way, 5atb is just terrible.
Plus you forget being 15th in the league
We did change it up and both were cautious. Ole did try and go for the win later on. Frank was happy with the draw. If we win our game in hand we go 3 points off top don't forget that but Arsenal have been a bit of a bogey team for us recently.
I still want Ole out. The results don’t change that. We’re not consistently playing like we did tonight. Spurs was only a couple of weeks ago. Chelsea was dull as dishwater and Ole was as much to blame as fat Frank.
Making it sound like we’re the second coming based off a few goals at the end of a Newcastle game and our CL games.
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Most people on here have known I have always been pro Ole. The guy is a bit rough around the edges but we have played the best football under him since Fergie left. That's coming from serial winners like LVG and Jose. He has brought in AWB, Maguire and Fernandes who have all improved our team. He has brought Greenwood into the fold and improved Rashford and Martial immeasurably who are playing their best football under him. He will also die for United. The club is in his blood and he got to learn from the best ever. Ferguson was never the best tactical manager but he was the best at bringing in the right coaching staff to help get him to his goal. With time I am sure Ole will do the same. The United board took a massive gamble taking on a rather unexperienced ex player but Arsenal and Chelsea are doing exactly the same now.
There is still that consistency to improve on and I think he was a bit naive with regards to pre-season which hurt us at the beginning. We are one result with Arsenal to be within three points off the top.
The guy out smarted Tuchel (Who is considered a fantastic manager) who had a 400 million front three and absolutely thumped an up and coming manager who everyone is heralding as a top manager for the future. Yet everyone is still referring to him as a P.E teacher. If he was English it would be different. Frank Lampard brings in a whole squad of loans and spends 200 million in the summer yet is struggling to achieve a 50% win ratio. Pundits seem to give him plenty of slack and not question him at all.
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Ole has spent a lot of money and still isn't delivering consistent results. We have a really good squad of young and hungry players and when they click, they are destroying teams. We are destroying them with pace and skill, not tactical brilliance. You could see how much better RB Leipzip we drilled with their movement and passing. With the shape they took up on the pitch. We undid them with a moment of brilliance and then cut them to pieces with our far superior subs against a tired team as the game went on.
Smashing tired teams when they stop defending properly doesn't show much. Watch how Bayern are playing at the moment and you will see a team that is utterly ruthless and tactically brilliant.
This attitude of comparison is a weird one I always think. Last season we relied on a number of other teams finishing the season really poorly to get CL football. Most seasons we wouldn't have that luck. If we win our game in hand we will be joint 5th and if we lose it we will be 15th.
I don't think people did rate Tuchel that highly. A lot of people said he was riding on Klopps coattails and hadn't necessarily earned his reputation. Also, look at that PSG team. Outside of the front 3 that team was rubbish. You can spend all the money you want but that doesn't guarantee you a well constructed side.
Nothing about last night has convinced me that Ole is the man to do anything special with us. Our results are still very much down to "how will the team turn up tonight". Will our star players pull something out of the bag. Will the other team make lots of mistakes and give us the space to run onto them. I still don't seen any shape to the team a lot of the time. Despite yesterdays result, I saw a one team that was well coached with 11 players who knew their jobs and where their team mates would be and I saw another team with far better players who eventually made that quality show.
