5900x build

energizer123 · 2 Nov 2020 at 13:34

Hi all,

Assuming the 5900X beats the 10900K in gaming as we expect it to, I will be ordering one on Thursday.

I should be receiving my RTX 3900 this week and everything else I will reuse from my existing PC. For a monitor i'm using the X35.

I just need to order the motherboard, processor and an additional 1 tb m.2 (i already have a 512gb i will put in too). What would you recommend? Focus is on performance rather than value for money.

nja · 2 Nov 2020 at 13:48

MSI X570 Tomahawk WiFi is a really good value X570 board with some of the best power delivery.
E.g. https://linustechtips.com/topic/1137619-motherboard-vrm-tier-list-v2-currently-amd-only/

mickyflinn · 2 Nov 2020 at 13:57

M2 one of the best value and performance pcie3 drive Adata XPG SX8200 Pro.

Pcie4 m2 if you want ultimate in performance but little real world diffrence.

energizer123 · 2 Nov 2020 at 14:08

I only game and understood pci4 didn't really make any difference. Below is what I what I was thinking. Would you Tomahawk be better?

My basket at Overclockers UK:

1 x Asus ROG Crosshair VIII Hero (AMD AM4) DDR4 X570 Chipset ATX Motherboard= £389.99
1 x Samsung 970 EVO Plus 1TB M.2 2280 PCI-e 3.0 x4 NVMe Solid State Drive= £179.99

Total: £580.48 (includes shipping: £10.50)

Mesai · 2 Nov 2020 at 14:12

energizer123 said:
I only game and understood pci4 didn't really make any difference. Below is what I what I was thinking. Would you Tomahawk be better?

My basket at Overclockers UK:

1 x Asus ROG Crosshair VIII Hero (AMD AM4) DDR4 X570 Chipset ATX Motherboard= £389.99

1 x Samsung 970 EVO Plus 1TB M.2 2280 PCI-e 3.0 x4 NVMe Solid State Drive= £179.99

Total: £580.48 (includes shipping: £10.50)

Tomahawk is a great board, the underlying components are right up there with more expensive boards - I've also heard negative reviews on the Asus chipset fans, whereas MSI have one of the better ones.

energizer123 · 2 Nov 2020 at 14:18

Great, so. Will the board need a bios update or be able to drop the chip in?

My basket at Overclockers UK:

1 x Samsung 970 EVO Plus 1TB M.2 2280 PCI-e 3.0 x4 NVMe Solid State Drive= £179.99
1 x MSI MAG X570 Tomahawk WiFi (AMD AM4) DDR4 X570 ATX Motherboard= £209.99

Total: £400.48 (includes shipping: £10.50)

mickyflinn · 2 Nov 2020 at 14:20

Overpriced m2 look at the a Adata XPG SX8200 Pro. £110

Mesai · 2 Nov 2020 at 14:21

energizer123 said:
Great, so. Will the board need a bios update or be able to drop the chip in?

Yea, I think you'll only start seeing up-to-date ones a couple weeks from now, but it's a really simple USB, which you can do before the CPU arrives.

Have a look at this discussion (link).

energizer123 · 2 Nov 2020 at 14:25

Ok, cool. I thought you had to have an old cpu in to do it. If it's a usb sure i can do it.

Will look at that m.2 too.

So the asus wouldn't give me better overclocks?

Mesai · 2 Nov 2020 at 14:35

energizer123 said:
So the asus wouldn't give me better overclocks?

Only if you did some hardcore overclocking, and even then, you'd need insane cooling to match. The MSI is one notch below the Asus, so you can still overclock the hell out of the chip on the MSI board.

energizer123 · 2 Nov 2020 at 14:39

Ok, that's good to know. I'm just using a 360 mm AIO so nothing insane.

My graphics card is MSI gaming trio too so one less bit of lighting software. Nice saving too!

energizer123 · 2 Nov 2020 at 14:40

Be nice to get away from the 7700k finally. To be fair, it's done me proud. 5.1 ghz since i've had it after a quick delid.

lee32uk · 2 Nov 2020 at 17:00

energizer123 said:
Ok, that's good to know. I'm just using a 360 mm AIO so nothing insane.

My graphics card is MSI gaming trio too so one less bit of lighting software. Nice saving too!

You could easily go with the MSI B550 Gaming Edge Wifi or B550 Tomahawk. Both have a really solid VRM and will handle a 5900X. That would save another £50 over the X570 Tomahawk.

energizer123 · 3 Nov 2020 at 10:16

Thanks @lee32, i was going to go for a £400 board so happy with the saving on the 570. Just need to hope the benchmarks come in or it's back to the 10900k and they have stock here!

My 3090 arrives today! Just waiting on cablemod cables. Ordered the cables 15 days ago

energizer123 · 3 Nov 2020 at 10:27

Sorry one last questions, would benefit would i get from the below over the MAG.

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/msi-mpg-x570-gaming-pro-c

lee32uk · 3 Nov 2020 at 12:31

energizer123 said:
Sorry one last questions, would benefit would i get from the below over the MAG.

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/msi-mpg-x570-gaming-pro-c

You would be getting a worse board. The only good MSI X570 boards are the Tomahawk, Unify, Ace, Creation and Godlike.

mickyflinn · 3 Nov 2020 at 12:35

lee32uk said:
You would be getting a worse board. The only good MSI X570 boards are the Tomahawk, Unify, Ace, Creation and Godlike.

Could you explain why it's worse than the tomahawk please.

Mesai · 3 Nov 2020 at 12:39

mickyflinn said:
Could you explain why it's worse than the tomahawk please.

Worse VRMs, by quite a bit actually, so less room for overclocking and just general performance.

B550 boards are solid, but you're limited on PCI lanes, so stick with the X570 for longevity.

energizer123 · 3 Nov 2020 at 12:56

That's easy then! thanks again

lee32uk · 3 Nov 2020 at 13:03

mickyflinn said:
Could you explain why it's worse than the tomahawk please.

As above, the VRM thermal performance is a lot worse.