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How future proof is the RTX 3090?

Hey everyone,

In the market for a gpu upgrade. I game at 4K, and want to run games at max settings 60fps minimum. Will this card be able to do do this for the next 3 to 5 years or am I dreaming? Is it worth waiting for the next gen? Will this card get caught out by the increase in graphical fidelity that will trickle down to pc games from next gen consoles?

All input appreciated.

It's probably as blunt as it can get.. the GA102 seems to be a big regression (in relative terms).. this is probably the first time a xx70ti, xx80, xx80 ti and xx90 will be based off the same core.
 
I game at 4K, and want to run games at max settings 60fps minimum.

In that case the card isn't even present-proofed! Remember: games settings increase continuously with new releases and the performance of cards relative to each other moves every 2 years (because new more powerful cards come out). So what that means is that for people who want "max settings 60 fps always" they have to upgrade constantly and even then those requirements might not be satisfied.
 
You could get a complete system with a 6800xt and Ryzen 5000 for the price of a 3090. They are just not worth the money.
 
Hey everyone,

In the market for a gpu upgrade. I game at 4K, and want to run games at max settings 60fps minimum. Will this card be able to do do this for the next 3 to 5 years or am I dreaming? Is it worth waiting for the next gen? Will this card get caught out by the increase in graphical fidelity that will trickle down to pc games from next gen consoles?

All input appreciated.

I'll vie for top dog with the 6900XT for 2 years till the next gen arrives or earlier if a Titan is pushed out next year. Future proofing doesn't really exist in gpu's even if its got plenty of grunt in the near future there might be some new thing that will render it out out of date gpus generally have a 2-4 year update/upgrade cycle.

3090 won't be outperformed by 3080 Ti, the clue is in the names.:)

If it's like 1080ti it'll be just under in performance and half the price lol
 
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No such thing as future proofing in this industry. With that said, I expect a 3090 will still be more then capable in 3 to 5 years provided you likely make some tweaks. Even now i have 1080T's and 3090 and can say, in the same games, make tweaks and the 1080Ti's offer a compelling experience still.

I'll vie for top dog with the 6900XT for 2 years till the next gen arrives or earlier if a Titan is pushed out next year. Future proofing doesn't really exist in gpu's even if its got plenty of grunt in the near future there might be some new thing that will render it out out of date gpus generally have a 2-4 year update/upgrade cycle.


If it's like 1080ti it'll be just under in performance and half the price lol

Yup. Though it won't be ahead in performance simply as the 3090 is already pretty much the complete GA102 core, I expect once 3090 sales slow the chips will simply go into a 3080Ti with a little bit less vRAM. Lines up with the latest rumor mill. Won't be half the price though, will be $999 or somewhere in that region I expect, similar to 6900XT if the performance is comparable. Nvidia will bank on there software stack, mindshare and RT capability as a leg up I expect. Can see already 3090's are coming in at similar numbers as 3080's at other Vendors yet backlog is much smaller. If it gets to a point the 3090 stops selling, Nvidia would rather put the same chips into a 3080Ti which would still have higher margins then a 3080.
 
A flagship gpu will only be top dog in that generation but it will still be capable well into the next gen. Just depends whether you are able to turn down a few settings and be happy with that once the next gen comes along
 
Its not that future proof, because there will likely be tsmc 5nm GPUs next year, that are more powerful, better value (easy when the price is so high), with lower power consumption, with probably more developed ray tracing hardware too.

I wouldn't be surprised if tsmc 5nm gpu dies have twice the transistor density of samsung 8nm ga102 dies.

Edit - I just noticed that AMD has been able to get greater transistor density on their 7nm RDNA 2 Navi 21 dies, than Nvidia's Ampere GPUs- 50.0M / mm² vs 45.1M / mm².
Link here:
https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/amd-navi-21.g923
 
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Its not that future proof, because there will likely be tsmc 5nm GPUs next year, that are more powerful, better value (easy when the price is so high), with power consumption, with probably more developed ray tracing hardware too.

I wouldn't be surprised if tsmc 5nm gpu dies had twice the transistor density of samsung 8nm ga102 dies.

Edit - I just noticed that AMD has been able to get greater transistor density on their 7nm RDNA 2 Navi 21 dies, than Nvidia - 50.0M / mm² vs 45.1M / mm².
Link here:
https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/amd-navi-21.g923

7nm enhanced already has 50% higher density than Samsung's fake 8nm, so yeah I'd bet on 5nm having 100% more density - it's really hard to imagine the 3090 not becoming a mid range card next gen. I'm sure it will still be a good card like the 2080ti, but I think it's performance will be matched by the likes of the RTX4060
 
Given it can't play all of today's games at 4K ultra its not remotely 'future proof'. Newer games (MS FS2020/Watch Dogs:Legion/ Assassins Creed:Valhalla) can't get 4K Ultra with a 3090. GPUs have fallen behind the developer's progress, save your money and get a 3080 or 6800XT instead.
 
Every release out classes the previous release, but you have to wait 2 years, thats 2 years of gaming and the 3090 does more than game. and in 2 years it will be the same story, wait 2 years and out class that release also. just buy what you want for you.

Exactly this!
 
Basically as long as nvidia decides.
Sometimes they screw over consumers by bringing out something better not much later. But tends to be the case of 2 years or so time and a mid range GPU will match it or outclass it.
 
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