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MSI RTX 3080 GAMING TRIO is underperforming

Moayad

Moayad

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Hey all,

I was happy to finally finish my build after getting Ryzen 9 5900x, but unfortunately I was disappointed with the performance of MSI RTX 3080 GAMING X TRIO after comparing the results to what I found on the internet.

I checked multiple games and benchmarks. Here you can say my result for 3DMark Time Spy:
Score: 16526
Graphics score: 17230
Graphics test 1: 113.45 FPS
Graphics test 2: 97.92 FPS

The expected Graphics score should be 17832 for the founder edition and 18683 for my card.
https://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/msi_geforce_rtx_3080_gaming_x_trio_review,26.html

After monitoring I realised that the problems is related to the core clock not being boosted enough. It is alwyas below 1800 MHz, while it is supposed to be boosted to 1815 MHz, and other cards are reaching more than 1900MHz normally without overclocking.

I tried to overclock the card using the following settings:
Core Voltage: +80
Power Limiter: 102%
Clock: +135 MHz
Mem clock: +500
FAN RPM default.

The core clock was between 1850-1900 MHz and I gained good performance boost. Then I tried to overclock it more by using Clock +200 MHz, and the clock was between 1900-1930 MHz.

There is always one pattern happening at the default settings and also while overclocking. There is always spikes in the clock. This's fine in the default settings, but will make problems while overclocking since I saw the clock spiked to more than 2150MHz. Here you can see the three runs I talked about and the spikes:
https://i.imgur.com/xDTfy9q.jpeg

So why do you think the clock is not boosting by default to a reasonable value? card temperature while gaming is not exceeding 75 even with overclocking. I am using 3X8 pins connectors for the card. For software tried to prefer performance over power save, I reinstalled Nvidia driver and even reinstalled Windows but without luck!

If it's not possible to find out the reason for that, then how can I overclock it to have around 1900MHz but without those spikes? I tried the auto performance tuning in Geforce experience, and it gave me around +130MHz without the spikes I was talking about. The performance gain was acceptable, but not the best, so I would like to overclock it manually.

Here is my build:
Asus ROG Crosshair VIII Hero
AMD Ryzen 9 5900X
MSI GeForce RTX 3080 10 GB GAMING X TRIO
G.Skill Trident Z Neo 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3600 CL16
Samsung 970 EVO Plus 2 TB M.2-2280 NVME
Corsair RMi 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply
 
The clocks drop back as the temp increases. I see you get to 75c at the current clock which is why you're finding it difficult to push further.

Also, be careful with the memory clock. The 3080 uses memory correction so the card won't show errors if the memory is clocked too high, but you will lose performance. I get lower performance with +500 memory compared to +300 because +500 is too much for my card
 
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I get something like this but with a 3800X and same 3080 from MSI. I undervolted to 0.875 and 1890 Mhz with boosts to 1905-1910 Mhz.
I didn't have time to play with it more but I like it this way as it's very quiet and temps are very low (around 50 when gaming).

I believe you should get more with that GPU and CPU combo.
 
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no_1_dave said:
The clocks drop back as the temp increases. I see you get to 75c at the current clock which is why you're finding it difficult to push further.

Also, be careful with the memory clock. The 3080 uses memory correction so the card won't show errors if the memory is clocked too high, but you will lose performance. I get lower performance with +500 memory compared to +300 because +500 is too much for my card
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The temperature is not exceeding 75c even with +200 MHz overclocking and the fans are not really spinning fast. When I put the fans at 100%, then the temperature is only around 57c under heavy load.
 
TimAhKin said:
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I get something like this but with a 3800X and same 3080 from MSI. I undervolted to 0.875 and 1890 Mhz with boosts to 1905-1910 Mhz.
I didn't have time to play with it more but I like it this way as it's very quiet and temps are very low (around 50 when gaming).

I believe you should get more with that GPU and CPU combo.
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I managed to get something like your result but with overclocking. In the link I posted it shows 18683 at default settings:
https://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/msi_geforce_rtx_3080_gaming_x_trio_review,26.html
 
Moayad said:
Hey all,

I was happy to finally finish my build after getting Ryzen 9 5900x, but unfortunately I was disappointed with the performance of MSI RTX 3080 GAMING X TRIO after comparing the results to what I found on the internet.

I checked multiple games and benchmarks. Here you can say my result for 3DMark Time Spy:
Score: 16526
Graphics score: 17230
Graphics test 1: 113.45 FPS
Graphics test 2: 97.92 FPS

The expected Graphics score should be 17832 for the founder edition and 18683 for my card.
https://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/msi_geforce_rtx_3080_gaming_x_trio_review,26.html

After monitoring I realised that the problems is related to the core clock not being boosted enough. It is alwyas below 1800 MHz, while it is supposed to be boosted to 1815 MHz, and other cards are reaching more than 1900MHz normally without overclocking.

I tried to overclock the card using the following settings:
Core Voltage: +80
Power Limiter: 102%
Clock: +135 MHz
Mem clock: +500
FAN RPM default.

The core clock was between 1850-1900 MHz and I gained good performance boost. Then I tried to overclock it more by using Clock +200 MHz, and the clock was between 1900-1930 MHz.

There is always one pattern happening at the default settings and also while overclocking. There is always spikes in the clock. This's fine in the default settings, but will make problems while overclocking since I saw the clock spiked to more than 2150MHz. Here you can see the three runs I talked about and the spikes:
https://i.imgur.com/xDTfy9q.jpeg

So why do you think the clock is not boosting by default to a reasonable value? card temperature while gaming is not exceeding 75 even with overclocking. I am using 3X8 pins connectors for the card. For software tried to prefer performance over power save, I reinstalled Nvidia driver and even reinstalled Windows but without luck!

If it's not possible to find out the reason for that, then how can I overclock it to have around 1900MHz but without those spikes? I tried the auto performance tuning in Geforce experience, and it gave me around +130MHz without the spikes I was talking about. The performance gain was acceptable, but not the best, so I would like to overclock it manually.

Here is my build:
Asus ROG Crosshair VIII Hero
AMD Ryzen 9 5900X
MSI GeForce RTX 3080 10 GB GAMING X TRIO
G.Skill Trident Z Neo 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3600 CL16
Samsung 970 EVO Plus 2 TB M.2-2280 NVME
Corsair RMi 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply
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Are you splitting cables from psu to your 3 x 8 pins?
 
Nothing wrong with your score! Both of these results are acheived with an overclock of about 115 on the core and 400 on the memory, unless of course my scores are too low too, in which case, why?

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oh for FFS!! I just did a run stock but changed my power plan to high performance and got a much better score!!! 17600 infact on complete stock, thats nearly 1000 more than on my sz v4 power plan, problem is the custom sz power plan is the only power plan which downvolts my cpu to 0.9v when computer is in an idle state while icue is running, no idea why but any other profile if icue is running, it pegs my cpu at maximum vcore 100% of the time!!! but this sz v4 profile managed to fix this, problem is now I'm getting really bad performance on 3000 series card, whereas on my 1080 it didn't make a different to performance when using this profile. So basically I have a choice of sub par performance with icue running and my cpu downvolting as it should do like normal or change power plan and have my cpu pegged 100% on vcore and get normal performance.


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oh my!!! further to my above post, I ran an oveclock on my card using another power plan and got the following....

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Most certainly more the likes of how we see reviews performing, problem is now my CPU is pegged at 1.48v 100% of the time due to icue.
 
Dean Guile said:
oh my!!! further to my above post, I ran an oveclock on my card using another power plan and got the following....

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Most certainly more the likes of how we see reviews performing, problem is now my CPU is pegged at 1.48v 100% of the time due to icue.
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what are the overclock settings you used here?
 
Dean Guile said:
Also out of interest, try doing runs on different power plans in Windows.
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I am using "Ultimate Performance" Power plan which you can enable with a small trick, nevertheless I didn't see any benfit from it.

I have a problem overclocking the card using MSI Afterburner because of the spikes as I said in the post. Only Geforce Experince Automatic Tuning overclocked the card without the spikes but I guess there's still room for big improvement.
 
Moayad said:
The temperature is not exceeding 75c even with +200 MHz overclocking and the fans are not really spinning fast. When I put the fans at 100%, then the temperature is only around 57c under heavy load.
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yees and as temperature increases clocks will drop. even 5c can gain you 50mhz get the temps to 60C the clocks will go up by default
 
boosts are usually less in benchmarks than what you would get in game ive noticed with my zotak 3080. In games ill see anything from around 2020-2075 rarely dipping below 2000, running 3dmark Port Royale it only boosts to about 1925
 
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