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Serious Q - Why 3060ti, and not 3060?

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So over the years we've had numerous GPU launches from Nvidia, now with the 3000 series, we've had the 3090/80/70 and most recently 3060 Ti. What does the Ti stand for? I always thought the Ti was a step above the base model, is this not correct.
 
CuriousTomCat said:
Super was a refresh. The 3060Ti isn't a refresh, it's a regular tier that sits between the 3060 tier and the 3070 tier.
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Is it? I seem to remember them not being released for some time after initial launch of the main SKU's.

1660Ti.. when they needed to compete.
1080Ti to present a cheaper more performant option than the Titan.
2070ti to compete.
 
Looks like they announced a 1050Ti back in Pascal but released the regular 1050 at the same time. So you can see why people get confused as there is no logic. There was no 1060Ti in Pascal. There were no Ti in Turing only the 2080 got one..
 
Th0nt said:
Looks like they announced a 1050Ti back in Pascal but released the regular 1050 at the same time. So you can see why people get confused as there is no logic. There was no 1060Ti in Pascal. There were no Ti in Turing only the 2080 got one..
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There kinda was a 1060ti in all but name. The 6gb variant also had more cuda cores. Which usually qualifies it as the ti
 
For the same reason we have the X series CPU's from AMD before the nonX.
Nvidia is in the same position on videocards as AMD is on CPU's. They expect the next move from the competition and then they react fast. So if Intel brings faster/cheaper CPU's, AMD will kill them again with the cheaper non X series. If AMD brings cheaper cards than 3060Ti, Nvidia will hit them with the 3060.
 
Scougar said:
Is it? I seem to remember them not being released for some time after initial launch of the main SKU's.

1660Ti.. when they needed to compete.
1080Ti to present a cheaper more performant option than the Titan.
2070ti to compete.
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Yes but that pattern stopped with RTX. The 2080Ti was released just 7 days after the 2080 and it didn't have competition.

The 1660Ti came out a month before the 1660.

The 1080Ti released nearly a year after the 1080 but a lot of potential customers had already bought the 1080 so they stopped releasing the Ti so late.

Also, as graphics cards have risen in price, the tiers have spread out more, leaving more gaps to fill with a Ti. So the Ti is part of the original launch and the Super cards do the job of the old Ti and are released much later.
 
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muon said:
The 3060 will have it's own die (GA106). The 3060 Ti is a cut down 3070 die (GA104).
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This

They have a pile of GA104 cores that don't make the cut as 3070's and already have the 3070 design qualified. Quick and easy to knock these out.

The 3060 is new boards, cooling solution, GA106. Do you want to be making GA106 when you need the capacity to produce 3090, 3080, 3070 + mining GPU's which probably get first dibs on good silicon.

3060ti is a by product
 
It is somewhat an odd move. I'd have thought from a profit and screw the customer over move more inline with their typical businesses practices would have prevailed. So 3060, then maybe a refresh 3060s, followed by a here's another ti version to render the last two cards owners with buyers remorse. That's what I'd expect anyway...
 
As said above. Nvidia need a way to use the lower quality 104 cores that work, but not well enough to use all the bits needed for a 3070. Apparently yields at Samsung are fairly poor so they’re probably piling up. Performance with these cut down cores is too close to the 70 for it to be a 60 hence 60Ti.
 
CuriousTomCat said:
Yes but that pattern stopped with RTX. The 2080Ti was released just 7 days after the 2080 and it didn't have competition.

The 1660Ti came out a month before the 1660.

The 1080Ti released nearly a year after the 1080 but a lot of potential customers had already bought the 1080 so they stopped releasing the Ti so late.

Also, as graphics cards have risen in price, the tiers have spread out more, leaving more gaps to fill with a Ti. So the Ti is part of the original launch and the Super cards do the job of the old Ti and are released much later.
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Thanks for that, I didn't realize the 1660ti got released first.

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All just playing around with branding, names mean nothing in the grand scheme of things. It's the perception of what it means to customers that is important. Ti is well known as being 'better' than the base card, so pulls more weight. (Well, if you have even a small nugget of info on gpu's. The layman has no clue).
 
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