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Wow, Nvidia have banned Hardware Unboxed from receiving review samples...

Cardinal_Fang said:
It'll all academic now - Nvidia has achieved what it set out to do and get lots of free advertising for ray tracing and DLSS, and have now done a U-turn and walked everything back.
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thats what i thought initially as well, they could have as well ghosted him, instead of sending a badly worded email..

Gerard said:
Or you could watch the first 40- minutes of the linus review which clearly state why it has a detrimental effect on the reviewer..
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will check that out when i cool down a bit :D

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i got sucked into this controversy due to reviewers providing glowing reviews for cyberpunk and look at how it turned out, i am using a very broad brush here
 
Cyber-Mav said:
Iv only seen that jay2cent video linked further up in this thread so im not fully updated on this but from what iv worked out from my point of view is nvidia sent free review cards hardware unboxed done partial review missing out rtx etc and not showing all of the products capabilities. Nvidia then said they not gonna send hardware unboxed any more cards. Hardware unboxed is upset and flames nvidia on the interwebs.

I side with nvidia in this case.
Its like ford sending a f150 to a reviewer who runs it around nurburgring and says the handling is crap but doesnt showcase its towing abilities.
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Well you obviously haven't watched enough of the vids doing the rounds, hardware unboxed had a separate video showing the cards rtx capabilities. Nvidia are just trying to dictate the entirety of the review and act like the reviewer is not entitled to an opinion of how he feels about raytracing in general. If that's the case then why even bother doing a review if you have to "tow the line" and not be entitled to a personal opinion on some of the features.
 
Cyber-Mav said:
I side with nvidia in this case.
Its like ford sending a f150 to a reviewer who runs it around nurburgring and says the handling is crap but doesnt showcase its towing abilities.
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If only Nvidia's products were in that category of "heavy workhorse but slow" the analogy might have been appropriate, but they aren't.

They want to be seen as the fastest, most efficient with cutting edge tech. Sometimes tech is ahead kf software by a far margin. This has happened to AMD many times, this is no different.

The point is, "towing capability" has no real meaning to the vast majority of games or gamers right now. It might it in the future, but right now, nope.
 
Gerard said:
Well you obviously haven't watched enough of the vids doing the rounds, hardware unboxed had a separate video showing the cards rtx capabilities. Nvidia are just trying to dictate the entirety of the review and act like the reviewer is not entitled to an opinion of how he feels about raytracing in general. If that's the case then why even bother doing a review if you have to "tow the line" and not be entitled to a personal opinion on some of the features.
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Well i dont intend to watch the hardware unboxed review. People can have opinions just like i can have my own opinion. But if that option is biting the hand that feeds it then they can expect to get blacklisted.
 
Scougar said:
The point is, "towing capability" has no real meaning to the vast majority of games or gamers right now. It might it in the future, but right now, nope.
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There was a twitter straw poll that approx 30% of gamers are interested in RT
Now this can also be interpreted as 70% of gamers are not interested
How would you have interpreted this?
 
Cyber-Mav said:
Iv only seen that jay2cent video linked further up in this thread so im not fully updated on this but from what iv worked out from my point of view is nvidia sent free review cards hardware unboxed done partial review missing out rtx etc and not showing all of the products capabilities. Nvidia then said they not gonna send hardware unboxed any more cards. Hardware unboxed is upset and flames nvidia on the interwebs.

I side with nvidia in this case.
Its like ford sending a f150 to a reviewer who runs it around nurburgring and says the handling is crap but doesnt showcase its towing abilities.
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Cyber-Mav said:
Well i dont intend to watch the hardware unboxed review. People can have opinions just like i can have my own opinion. But if that option is biting the hand that feeds it then they can expect to get blacklisted.
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Has a bad take and then doubles down.:rolleyes:
 
Scougar said:
The point is, "towing capability" has no real meaning to the vast majority of games or gamers right now. It might it in the future, but right now, nope.
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This what im getting from the reviews just like you have said its your opinion and yet you phrase it as if your speaking for all consumers of the products out there when saying what iv quoted.
I game but not a lot but to me "towing capability" is something im interested in. Just because a review says nobody wants it doesnt actually mean hes speaking for me.
 
LTT and J2C have both come out strongly today interesting comments. I actually thought J was better. Not seen GN yet or the follow up from Steve Nvidia Blooper there methinks
 
Nablaoperator said:
There was a twitter straw poll that approx 30% of gamers are interested in RT
Now this can also be interpreted as 70% of gamers are not interested
How would you have interpreted this?
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You read the poll wrong.

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All this has achieved for Nvidia is to confirm what a scummy company they are.
 
Cyber-Mav said:
Your saying i should watch it and it will change everything? If that reviewer has been singled out as being biased then why should i bother?
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You're a real piece of work.

Didn't look at any of the source material and you're happy to say you have a concrete opinion on the matter.

WHILE AT THE SAME TIME continuing to ask people to explain how you're wrong.
 
Chuk_Chuk said:
You read the poll wrong.
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That doesnt change the basic logic of my argument (i registered it as 27% in a hurry)
23% gamers are interested in RT performance or
77% not interested in RT performance
whats your interpretation.. how would you approach your review content?

the hypothesis still remains the same

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btw that data further strengthens my argument, i had no idea that HU had conducted that poll :)
 
Hotwired said:
You're a real piece of work.

Didn't look at any of the source material and you're happy to say you have a concrete opinion on the matter.

WHILE AT THE SAME TIME continuing to ask people to explain how you're wrong.
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Ayup, "biting the hand that feeds it" so in any review no cons, only pro's.
 
Hotwired said:
You're a real piece of work.

Didn't look at any of the source material and you're happy to say you have a concrete opinion on the matter.

WHILE AT THE SAME TIME continuing to ask people to explain how you're wrong.
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Because no one has given a concrete reason for me to change my mind.
Its my opinion so it matters to me. If a company gives a reviewer a product for free to review and show all its capabilities but the reviewer just picks raster performance and ignores the other features claiming that no one is interested in them then yea i will stick to my opinion.
If reviewer buys the hardware with their own hard earned then they can do whatever they like in the review and not cry afterwards that they dont get any more freebees.
 
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