Are Scalpers Here to Stay?

[Zernath]

Do people really pay that kind of money? I personally wouldn't go over £750 for a 3080.

If they weren't, then we wouldn't have this problem at the moment. You see folks on here bragging about what they've spent on their rig, and calling people poor if they complain about the pricing trend.

 

[pp111]

They do. Another site had some of the higher end cards (RTX 3080 Master, Suprim, FTW3 Ultra) at around £880-900 earlier today. They also had some low end ones at £780. They all sold.

Edit: I don't expect to see many 3080s under £750 for many-many months. Sometimes I think it would be easier to just give in, then I wouldn't have to keep checking websites and could do something more productive.

By the time I got the email, they had sold out, lol.

 

[pc-guy]

Do people really pay that kind of money? I personally wouldn't go over £750 for a 3080.

I wouldn’t go over the price of lowest RRP by a single penny out of principle. Using sites that can track prices over time gives me a basis on what a fair price I should be paying. Anything over that is just RIP OFF

 

[rn2]

Even large companies are scalping now. That large American etailer had the RTX 3080 Master on its UK site at £1026 for pre-order this morning. And it wasn't a marketplace seller overcharging, it was the company itself. You can get 3080s on auction sites for that much. It sold out of course.

We just have to be patient and not give in to scalpers. At one point supply is bound to catch up to demand (or at least that is what I keep telling myself).

If they weren't, then we wouldn't have this problem at the moment. You see folks on here bragging about what they've spent on their rig, and calling people poor if they complain about the pricing trend.

Wow really? aren't they just trolling theirselves?

I wouldn’t go over the price of lowest RRP by a single penny out of principle. Using sites that can track prices over time gives me a basis on what a fair price I should be paying. Anything over that is just RIP OFF

I would not buy it from a scalper yet major companys are kind of scalping too now so I guess I kind of am.

 

[nikoliath]

I wouldn’t go over the price of lowest RRP by a single penny out of principle. Using sites that can track prices over time gives me a basis on what a fair price I should be paying. Anything over that is just RIP OFF

The ref card RRP or AIB RRP?

 

[pc-guy]

The ref card RRP or AIB RRP?

Any RRP. If it’s is FE or reference card then that’s what I should be paying. If a year down the line someone try to sell. Reference card at full RRP where it has been discounted to say 90% within the year, I wouldn’t pay RRP either.

Principles.

 

[benparker]

Well I'm being hopeful for no later than February for a 3080. I'm in no rush and I'm also going way over kill on the card this time anyway.

There was a massive FE drop at 2:30 today

 

[Scooby-DoobyDoo]

I have 2 warnings and a trading ban on a popular Hifi / visual forum for pointing out their rules and reporting a mod in a Graphics Card thread

Ironically. I even traced the username to someone who has been on here for help (5 tears ago).

I hate the scalpers.

 

[chrcoluk]

Governments are looking to step in, but the simple reality is that even if they take action nothing will get implemented soon, it will take time so they will be here to stay for at least another 12-18 months.

The main issue is simply supply though, its massively down and with BTC surging mining farms around the world are expanding which won't be helping matters either.

Gibbo have you ever considered an invite system, where accounts linked to forum get invites first one unit per account. Second dabs to 1+ year old accounts without forum linked, then if any left, 3rd to rest of accounts, then after that general sale?

I agree supply is the problem, the shipments you retailers are getting is a real eye opener.

 

[chrcoluk]

I don't know how you can say that with a straight face. Prices on GPUs on the 30x0 launches went up by £50 or more as people were checking out. The prices going up by the minute had nothing to do with the supply costs, which were sunk, and everything about creaming some extra profit off customers.

I mean - it's alright, it's supply and demand, other etailers are doing it, but let's call a spade a spade eh? This mock camaraderie and sympathy towards consumers about "the problem with scalping" is bordering on satire.

Some of that will be because nvidia offer a rebate so early stock meets RRP, but thats only a temporary offer, so once stock is sold either retailer sucks up the difference or prices going up, its a reason why its been reported to the ASA. But yeah supply and demand will be fuelling it as well, and thats down to nvidia and the distributors keeping supply low. However its nowhere near as bad as the ebay scalping, the prices are completely unreal. The two things are not even comparable.

 

[deusexlumina]

I honestly don't see the problem with it but then again I don't care much about the new GPU/console releases.

Eventually they'll be available and eventually they'll be cheaper. I mean, PC components in general are famous for their depreciation rate. Why not just wait? There are plenty of other things going on in the world to occupy you in the meantime.

 

[Coowhan]

What I don't get is not only are you paying hundreds of pounds more but you're also overpaying all that for a product with no warranty... Speaking of eBay scalpers here. Seen many posts about this on Reddit etc. that mostly all manufacturers will not honour the warranty.

 

[Deleted member 77746]

This isn’t the first time and won’t be the last. Guaranteed

 

[nvarsj]

I was willing to give OC UK the benefit of the doubt regarding graphics cards. But what about the Zen 3 situation? They never sold the 5950X at MSRP, and now, when all back orders are cleared and they still have 100s in stock the price is even higher. Right now there are cheaper ones on auction sites. This makes me wonder.

Wow I just checked it out. OCUK is seriously taking the **** at 110 above msrp. I used to buy all my stuff from OCUK but this year the greed has really turned me off.

 

[jaybee]

What I don't get is not only are you paying hundreds of pounds more but you're also overpaying all that for a product with no warranty... Speaking of eBay scalpers here. Seen many posts about this on Reddit etc. that mostly all manufacturers will not honour the warranty.

Thinking of all this warranty talk reminds me of times gone by on these here forums. Anyone remember that "I'm not a shop" thing? lol I think it was a guy that sold something dodge on members market and then someone wanted a refund. He was like, "I'm not a shop mate".

Some legend will find it and link it now watch...

 

[rn2]

Wow I just checked it out. OCUK is seriously taking the **** at 110 above msrp. I used to buy all my stuff from OCUK but this year the greed has really turned me off.

I got really lucky and bought some ram for £200. I was informed by a forum member that it was on a one day sale (I did notice three was a percentage off but I thought that it only said around 3%, could be wrong). I won't be buying a GPU or CPU from here if rather wait a couple of months if I have to.

Long story short the price changed to £230 a day after and £260 the day after that.

 

[Zernath]

What I don't get is not only are you paying hundreds of pounds more but you're also overpaying all that for a product with no warranty... Speaking of eBay scalpers here. Seen many posts about this on Reddit etc. that mostly all manufacturers will not honour the warranty.

Frankly, if you're supporting scalpers by buying from them, then you deserve everything you get. I can't wait to see the gnashing of teeth when their cards fail, and they can't get a replacement, it'll be glorious!

 

[Bubo]

If this lack of warranty via scalpers thing is true, then a cynic would probably think that it is in retailers interests for scalpers to buy all the cards, since the retailer would never have to deal with any RMAs. As I say, you would have to be quite cynical to think this.

 

[chrcoluk]

I was willing to give OC UK the benefit of the doubt regarding graphics cards. But what about the Zen 3 situation? They never sold the 5950X at MSRP, and now, when all back orders are cleared and they still have 100s in stock the price is even higher. Right now there are cheaper ones on auction sites. This makes me wonder.

I did agree OCUK and other retailers are not innocent, there is clearly gouging going on as well.

But ultimately AMD and nvidia (and intel), can put a stop to this if they wanted. Hardware unboxed said the same thing, ultimately its the guys at the top who let it happen.

What do you think would happen if nvidia started banning distributors and retailers who added their own extra margins? Or if they started selling at RRP on their own website with stock that doesnt sell out.

 

[Coowhan]

Frankly, if you're supporting scalpers by buying from them, then you deserve everything you get. I can't wait to see the gnashing of teeth when their cards fail, and they can't get a replacement, it'll be glorious!

I agree, I just think of all the gigabyte cards being scalped on there and all the power connector issues they've had, haha. Good luck with that after paying £1000+ just to get your card for Christmas and find you can't plug your connector in Contact Gigabyte..
"Can we see your receipt sir...."
Uhm, does an eBay confirmation from Mr. Bloggs count?