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Like all good Christmas presents mine is powered by Reindeers.
Mighty impressed. HSE EV400 in Caesium Blue
Mighty impressed. HSE EV400 in Caesium Blue
China is coming....
Its paid by XPeng featuring Bjorn but this car does look very interesting.
One thing that really caught my eye is the responsiveness of the touch screen and the general interface, it looked great. It's very Tesla (if not some of it being a direct copy) which isn't a bad thing.
If the legacy automakers can't get their software act together they may be in trouble. For example compare the above with this video of the Mach-e and compare how laggy it is (3:13 if the link doesn't work).
https://youtu.be/-P-6Q3_o8Ik?t=193
I remember the iPace was really bad to begin with and has been improved. Is it now as smooth as it should be?
Its paid by XPeng featuring Bjorn but this car does look very interesting.
One thing that really caught my eye is the responsiveness of the touch screen and the general interface, it looked great. It's very Tesla (if not some of it being a direct copy) which isn't a bad thing.
If the legacy automakers can't get their software act together they may be in trouble. For example compare the above with this video of the Mach-e and compare how laggy it is (3:13 if the link doesn't work).
https://youtu.be/-P-6Q3_o8Ik?t=193
I remember the iPace was really bad to begin with and has been improved. Is it now as smooth as it should be?
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China are all over EVs, seen plenty of other fully charged videos they've got loads of different manufacturers making vehicles at various different price points. Already got MG breaking out into Europe if a few more of them do (and they pass all the safety tests etc!) they'll catch some of the big boys with their pants down big time.
and these companies (Xpeng, NIO etc) are original EV manufacturers same as Tesla not legacy ones trying to turn an oil tanker (excuse the pun
) around and pivot to EVs.
and these companies (Xpeng, NIO etc) are original EV manufacturers same as Tesla not legacy ones trying to turn an oil tanker (excuse the pun
) around and pivot to EVs.
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China are all over EVs, seen plenty of other fully charged videos they've got loads of different manufacturers making vehicles at various different price points. Already got MG breaking out into Europe if a few more of them do (and they pass all the safety tests etc!) they'll catch some of the big boys with their pants down big time.
and these companies (Xpeng, NIO etc) are original EV manufacturers same as Tesla not legacy ones trying to turn an oil tanker (excuse the pun
Yes but the good oil tank manufacturers know how to build cars and good quality cars
. The popup EV companies are actually way behind in that respect,automobile manufacturing, even Tesla. They will catch up and many legacy manufacturers will also catch up on the EV side of things.Some legacy manufacturers will fail but I don't think all these EV companies going to survive either. The best will survive.
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I assume there an interlock on the charge cables that prevents you driving off still attached.
Watched Harry's ID3 review :
which included a touchpad lock-up, if there is a means to re-boot, he wasn't aware of it, but rather it fixed itself after being parked for a while;
split A-pillar with the glazing is nice/safe;
he was achieving a sub 200 ~180mile autonom on something that should be 260/270 though.
Watched Harry's ID3 review :
which included a touchpad lock-up, if there is a means to re-boot, he wasn't aware of it, but rather it fixed itself after being parked for a while;
split A-pillar with the glazing is nice/safe;
he was achieving a sub 200 ~180mile autonom on something that should be 260/270 though.
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Damn I love the look of that P7
It's annoying when the general public see a WLTP range number (EV or ICE) and see that as a promise of what they will be able to achieve. The test is done so you can compare range or MPG between different vehicles tested under the exact same conditions. It's not meant to be a real world number you can achieve in any conditions or driving style.
It's like shock - cold weather means batteries aren't as efficient, or if you drive like Hamilton then you use more fuel or battery %.
Post is not aimed at you by the way - just the lack of general knowledge in the wider motoring public.
Even for wltp there seems some diversity of interpretation, kona has a nice list of range under different ambiant temperatures,
an article had suggested Tesla were running the test in an obscure way, repeatedly, was it ? so battery is still warm ? I need to read it.
I didn't think Harry was being disingenuous about the vw either, for the ID3 and mach-e manufacturers are not volunteering information on the heat-pumps cost/impact,
albeit if you pre-warm the car from your house supply you can reduce it's impact, the ~£1k the vw one costs seems like robbery.
To be fair that is a pretty fair assumption to make when you see the word "range". If it is purely used as a comparison why put a unit on it, just make it a score and let people make their own conclusions based on that and the manufacturers urban, motorway and combined figures.
It's always been the case that efficiency figures are to be taken with a pinch of salt but in ICE terms that means a few extra quid a week or an extra fill up per month. In EV terms it can be the difference between a car meeting your needs or not so its a shame they can't give a realistic figure.
It's not been really cold yet. I think in the 'review' he said it was 0-10C. The cars that haven full battery temperature management with battery warmers (Tesla, Porsche, Audi, Mercedes and the newer Kia/Hyundai - not sure about the Polestar) don't see anything like the drop in efficiency and they charge much faster when it's cold.
I don't know if you've seen any of the German language iD3 content on YouTube but there is at least one video where they tested how long it took to get the car up from -10C to +20C and it took 20 minutes and 10% of the battery without a battery heater and 15 minutes and 5% of the battery with the battery heater. As far as I'm aware none of the 1st Editions had the Heat Pump/Battery Warmer so they suffer when it's cold. The non-heat pump cars also dropped from over 4 miles/kW to less than 2 miles/kW when the temperature dropped below zero. That's a massive hit.
And apparently the Kona's predeliction to lock it's front wheels when the regen kicks in is shared by the Model 3 and iD3 which locks their rear wheels and apparently the RWD ID3 is almost undriveable on snow because all the torque comes in immediately.
If you are warming your car when it's plugged into a granny charger then you can't keep up with the usage when the heater comes on. It's using something like 6kW/h to heat the car from 5C to 20C. And if it's REALLY cold then even a 7kW home charger won't keep up.
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Still trying to understand all the EV related options...why the Pod Point and not a BMW wall charger?
Which model do you have (120ah?) and what kind of range at 70mph do u expect? I'm hoping the battery will be upgraded again in 2021 which might tempt me as second car.
Got my Pod Point fitted today for my i3 - the guy did a neat job.
Weren't you just APPALLED when you saw how little there actually was inside that gigantic housing?
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See it’s daft size but when tethered it makes more sense than the tiny ones! I’ve gone for an Ohme but the Pod-Point was close and 7.5m is probably a better choice.
I have a 94Ah with range extender, it's a school run/shopping car really, which is actually pretty much all I use a car for these days. I generally get about 100 miles out of a charge, but only had it a short while and no motorway use. Not had to use the REX yet.