Trouble playing games due to fps drops.

gooober

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Hi all, I am struggling playing games on my p.c. I havnt really played much I have been playing rocket league and smite mainly and neither really needs much to run them.. but I downloaded cod warzone, and the division 2 and its just killing my p.c. they both run **** and only seem to be OK when on the lowest detail but still sometimes jutter. I thought my p.c was going to be able to handle it but they can't.. I mean struggling on lowest detail?
In my machine I have

Windows 10 up to date
Mb- gigabyte ab350
Cpu- amd ryzen 7 1800x eight core. 3600 mhz
Gpu- radeon rx580 8gb
Ram - 8gb ddr4. Can't remember what 1..
Storage - 2gb seagate

Ita so frustrating trying to play games as they are so juddery. Any thoughts on what could cause it ? Possibly not enough ram or something is being bottlenecked?

I don't know much about comps. So any help would be massively appreciated. Thanks!
 
With that setup you shouldn’t be having trouble with low settings at 1080p. An RX580 is still a reasonable card at that resolution as long as you don’t crank all the settings.

What are your temperatures like?

More RAM would definitely be a good idea but I doubt it’s the sole cause of your problems.
 
Blue160 said:
With that setup you shouldn’t be having trouble with low settings at 1080p. An RX580 is still a reasonable card at that resolution as long as you don’t crank all the settings.

What are your temperatures like?
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I can't be 100% sure what it is but I think around 85. I can play the game for 10 mins before the fans kick into full and it still judder so not sure that is the problem
 
If the fans are kicking into full at all I’d be suspicious about temperature. I’d download Unigine Heaven and run it at max settings, windowed, with MSI afterburner monitoring things and find out just how hot your GPU and CPU are getting.
 
Blue160 said:
If the fans are kicking into full at all I’d be suspicious about temperature. I’d download Unigine Heaven and run it at max settings, windowed, with MSI afterburner monitoring things and find out just how hot your GPU and CPU are getting.
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Ok completed it. Gpu and cpu never went above 55c as I played s bit that wasn't to heavy... but the judder just completely destroyed me haha it was bad I had to get off.

So any thoughts on what else it could be ?

My gpu up too date.
Windows 10 up to date.
Dunno what else it could be.
 
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The Division 2 uses a lot of RAM, it was using around 12gb for me last I played it on a fairly similar system to the OP. The game is notorious for stuttering even on low settings for people with less than 16GB of RAM, despite the system requirements stating 8GB is fine. I've heard Warzone can be problematic too.

I'd upgrade to 16GB minimum and an SSD, any game that streams assets from the drive it's is going to benefit. Those hybrid drives aren't really any better than a standard HDD outside of one or two use cases, I'd relegate it to a storage drive.
 
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Ok so I reinstalled the gou drives. And it seems a lot smoother. Still a bit juddery in some places but nothing like before. Holding steady at around 65fps on high graphics when in fights etc. I guess the remaining judders are caused by the low ram ? I also gather if I buy more ram it needs to be the same mhz as my current or it won't work correctly ? My current ram is cprsair 3000mhz. Is that good or worth upgrading it completely?
 
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That sounds promising!

Mixing RAM kits can be a bit hit and miss. If you can add another kit exactly the same as what you already have it should all work. Otherwise buy a 16GB kit and sell the one you have.
 
gooober said:
Ok so I reinstalled the gou drives. And it seems a lot smoother. Still a bit juddery in some places but nothing like before. Holding steady at around 65fps on high graphics when in fights etc. I guess the remaining judders are caused by the low ram ? I also gather if I buy more ram it needs to be the same mhz as my current or it won't work correctly ? My current ram is cprsair 3000mhz. Is that good or worth upgrading it completely?
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Sell your existing RAM.

There are free applications which will allow you to copy your Windows installation to the new drive.

As an aside, did you build the rig yourself or did you buy it from OCUK? Putting 2x4GB sticks in a new system is a tad cheap, an 1800X with 8GB of RAM for a 'gaming only' rig is a flat out poor selection of parts.
 
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Use task manager to see whether it's cpu, ram, gpu, or disk that's at high usage. My guess is you have a bottleneck. No need to guess when the data is right there in task manager to help you diagnose this issue.
 
Gray2233 said:
My basket at Overclockers UK:
Total: £152.98 (includes shipping: £0.00)
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Sell your existing RAM.

There are free applications which will allow you to copy your Windows installation to the new drive.

As an aside, did you build the rig yourself or did you buy it from OCUK? Putting 2x4GB sticks in a new system is a tad cheap, an 1800X with 8GB of RAM for a 'gaming only' rig is a flat out poor selection of parts.
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I have it myself, well originally built like 8 years ago but just upgrading parts etc. The reasoning for the 8gb of ram was money issues, was planning to upgrade again but with a child now money is tight so it's hard to keep it going lol. Thanks for the info. Is that good ram for the price I take it ? And how essential is the ssd these days? Very?
 
gooober said:
I have it myself, well originally built like 8 years ago but just upgrading parts etc. The reasoning for the 8gb of ram was money issues, was planning to upgrade again but with a child now money is tight so it's hard to keep it going lol. Thanks for the info. Is that good ram for the price I take it ? And how essential is the ssd these days? Very?
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The RAM should be fine.

I'd argue an SSD is essential for a lot of games now, as I mentioned earlier many modern games stream assets from the drive they're installed on, having such games on an SSD will result in a smoother experience. You could opt for a smaller 500GB drive, but I'd say that £87 for the 1TB SN550 is a pretty good price.
 
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