Are joggers the new cyclists?

bit unfair, joggers got so much hate during the first lockdown for running near pedestrians/walkers.

No matter how much hate they get, I'm not sure it ever justifies jumping off the pavement into the road in front of a car...
 
I have been running all my life, but I have shelved it for my own well-being and those of others, especially seeing as COVID symptoms take some days to show. Looking forward to getting back to it when this whole mess is over.

The selfish people are those who refuse to make changes to their lifestyle at the expense of others' health.

And I do own reflective gear :p

Sounds very principled.

But what the hell are you on about :p

Getting in a daily exercise on your own, outdoors, is recommended even in tier 4.

What mental gymnastics are you applying to decide that jogging is a high risk activity when it comes to covid.
 
The pariahs for giving way are the folks on the (illegal) electric scooters - are they now present as collateral on GTA.

Runners and pedestrians alike do need some green cross code education for interaction ... if you are walking/running towards oncoming traffic you pass others on the offside.
 
No matter how much hate they get, I'm not sure it ever justifies jumping off the pavement into the road in front of a car...

Agreed. I had one the other day that I was luckily able to swerve around. If something had been coming the over way I'd have hit the stupid mare.
 
You should either slow down or remember that just because 2 cars hit each other at 40mph this does not mean you will experience an 80mph crash. ;)

What, so I should drive at an indeterminately slow speed any time there's a pedestrian just because they may be thick as pig crap and step out in front of a vehicle? Or, how about we go with natural selection and I won't potentially wipe out an innocent family coming towards me?
I never said an 80mph crash, I said 80mph closing.
 
Rather than have a head on crash at 80mph closing - definitely.
I'm glad you're not involved in autonomous driving development.


What, so I should drive at an indeterminately slow speed any time there's a pedestrian just because they may be thick as pig crap and step out in front of a vehicle? Or, how about we go with natural selection and I won't potentially wipe out an innocent family coming towards me?
I never said an 80mph crash, I said 80mph closing.
Yes - it's called uhm.. driving to the conditions? Just like you wouldn't do 60mph round an NSL single track blind bend?
 
Might have been a while ago but I'm pretty sure this gets covered in your driving test to be aware that anyone on or near the road could be about to do some dumb **** and be prepared for it :p
 
I'm glad you're not involved in autonomous driving development.



Yes - it's called uhm.. driving to the conditions? Just like you wouldn't do 60mph round an NSL single track blind bend?

I think you need to look up what driving to the conditions means. It doesn't mean driving at an ever slower speed because there is a pedestrian footpath present.

Might have been a while ago but I'm pretty sure this gets covered in your driving test to be aware that anyone on or near the road could be about to do some dumb **** and be prepared for it :p

If you did that traffic couldn't move if there were pedestrians. Every single urban area in the UK would grind to a halt.
 
Last edited by a moderator:
I think you need to look up what driving to the conditions means. It doesn't mean driving at an ever slower speed because there is a pedestrian footpath present.
I didn't say that. Perhaps you can enlighten us with your definition of driving to the conditions though?

It seems it would be something like "MUST GET TO DESTINATION AS FAST AS POSSIBLE. BLOODY OTHER ROAD USER IN WAY? SCREW THEM."
 
I didn't say that. Perhaps you can enlighten us with your definition of driving to the conditions though?

It seems it would be something like "MUST GET TO DESTINATION AS FAST AS POSSIBLE. BLOODY OTHER ROAD USER IN WAY? SCREW THEM."

They're not a road user. They're a pedestrian who has decided to step off the pavement and in front of moving traffic.

Driving to the conditions means driving to the conditions of the road, i.e. weather, surface, traffic.

Do you come to a crawl every time you pass a pedestrian? Do you stop every time you come to a T-juntion in case the car waiting there pulls out unexpectedly?
 
Maybe you need a recap...

1. Overview (204)

The most vulnerable road users are pedestrians, cyclists, motorcyclists and horse riders. It is particularly important to be aware of children, older and disabled people, and learner and inexperienced drivers and riders.

Yes...if they're in the road not on a footpath. You can't be that thick, surely?
 
Oh. I didn't realise pedestrians normally teleport over roads to the next pavement to avoid becoming road users.

Do you come to a crawl every time you pass a pedestrian? Do you stop every time you come to a T-juntion in case the car waiting there pulls out unexpectedly?
If they display any hazardous intentions then I would approach at appropriate speed that I can stop in time should the hazard develop. I do take caution at T-junctions to ensure the driver isn't intending to pull out unexpectedly too.
 
Back
Top Bottom