Had a 3070 in basket today but let it go.. was i right?

DeathStorm · 13 Jan 2021 at 00:45

If it comes back to you, it's yours forever. If it doesn’t, then it was never meant to be.

easyrider · 13 Jan 2021 at 02:54

Yeah totally right.

I bought an Asus TUF 3070 just before Christmas for £699 as I needed a card .

Got it and realised I’d only bought as there was a drought and needed a card over Christmas. Didn’t sit right with me so I returned it for a full refund and got a 3060ti FE for £300 less.

Fired up some games and couldn’t be happier . You always feel short changed if you don’t get the card you want . If you want the 3080 hold off and make do with what you have until stock hits. I’ll only be buying a 3080 once the price and stock have settled down and for the money the 3060ti is a very nice card for the money

Plus I will be able sell it for minimal loss.

skipper847 · 13 Jan 2021 at 09:52

They would make a lot more money if they lowered them to around £800 i would defo upgrade my 2080ti but at £1700 ridiculous.

Ravenger · 13 Jan 2021 at 12:07

I had a 3900fe in my basket, and thought against it due to the expense and thinking there might be a cheaper 3080ti coming. Now there's no 3080ti announcement, and given the scalpers prices for 3800's approaching £1000 maybe I should have bought it! (Though I'd have to reconfigure my case to get it to fit).

GamingRobioto · 13 Jan 2021 at 12:31

I did it when I found a MSI Suprim X for £569. The 3080 hunt continues though, I just needed a GPU as I didn't have one.

The card is better than I thought it would be, it can play everything I've thrown at it in 4k (with DLSS 2.0 where applicable) at 60FPS with a few settings compromises in the most demanding games, I just realise that it will likely age pretty quickly.

But saying that, what really demanding games are coming this year? I thought Hitman 3, but that seems to have similar requirements to Hitman 2 so that's fine. Maybe Resident Evil 8? But then 2 and 3 were so well optimised I doubt it will be an issue. Past that I'm struggling to think of anything that will be more demanding than Cyberpunk or Control which come out in the next year. Maybe FFVII Remake if it gets a PC release this year, but I can run FFXV fine at the moment on High/Highest settings at 4k 60, although it is a different engine.

I kind of wished I had waited for the 3080 when it first arrived, now I'm feeling much better about it once I started playing games.

Lmg80 · 13 Jan 2021 at 12:46

Just wish nvidia would release headless versions just for miners, and somehow deactivate headed cards so they cannot be used for mining.

I guess from their perspective income regardless of source is all that matters

CuriousTomCat · 13 Jan 2021 at 13:27

The fact that your asking a forum tells me it's too expensive.

The time to buy is when you see a GPU and think "wow that's a bargain".

If you're unsure and need to ask, it's too expensive. The same applies to anything from teacakes to cars.

pp111 · 13 Jan 2021 at 13:31

Jimbo said:
On a compeditors site today I had a Gigabyte eagle 3070 8gb OC card in my basket for £620 but i just couldnt bring myslef to buy it. As ive saved up £800 and really want an 3080. But i was sorely tempted, i must say. Having missed out this week again for a 3080 FE and i was so close it still had add to basket but when i did it said gone. The 8 gig puts me off the 3070 and i want to try gaming in native 4K on my LG CX Oled, not sure if 3070 is a good choice. So the wait goes on. My Power color 5700XT is doing a good job at 1440p and looks great on the CX but id love a 30 series card like everyone else or even a AMD 6000 series. Its very frustrating and watching for constant false alarm alerts is doing my head in.

I have been tempted with such things, but I really decided that I have to let the hype go and just spend my money elsewhere for six months. Fact is that £620 is too much. Just let it go. The sooner you accept that you can't get one now the better really. Part of the problem right now is that far too many people are getting caught up with the hype and believe it's essential to get one RIGHT NOW irrespective of cost.

Smokey26 · 13 Jan 2021 at 13:35

Mean Mr Mustard said:
£620 for a 3070 is a joke by the way. Manufacturers and retailers are having everyone's pants down with these retarded prices.

Guess what. If nobody bought them and said **** off to them like they should be, they wouldnt be over priced for long. But alas, people pay it.

Tommy_Here · 13 Jan 2021 at 13:39

definitely right thing! I would rather wait for 3080 at that price.. prices at the minute are disgusting!

philo-sofa · 13 Jan 2021 at 13:57

I was in a more invidious (I’m a flippin wordsmith me) position than you, having only a 1070 and really wanting to play CP 2077 over Christmas.

So it was a joy to pick up a good 3070 for £640. Still, am looking to get a 3080 ASAP and hopefully flick the 3070 for cost.

If you can wait, it makes sense to do so, but a hundred extra quid isn’t the end of the world either.

Cleeecooo · 16 Jan 2021 at 19:44

philo-sofa said:
I was in a more invidious (I’m a flippin wordsmith me) position than you, having only a 1070 and really wanting to play CP 2077 over Christmas.

So it was a joy to pick up a good 3070 for £640. Still, am looking to get a 3080 ASAP and hopefully flick the 3070 for cost.

If you can wait, it makes sense to do so, but a hundred extra quid isn’t the end of the world either.

Do you reckon you'll get your money back for the 3070?

I'm in the same position as OP - I just got the Gigabyte OC 3070 for £650 (in addition to a second 3070 for £550 that may or may not be arriving) and I'm not sure whether to just cancel the order or hold onto it while I try to get a 3080.

philo-sofa · 16 Jan 2021 at 21:16

Cleeecooo said:
Do you reckon you'll get your money back for the 3070?

I'm in the same position as OP - I just got the Gigabyte OC 3070 for £650 (in addition to a second 3070 for £550 that may or may not be arriving) and I'm not sure whether to just cancel the order or hold onto it while I try to get a 3080.

Yeah, if I were to put it on ebay I'd get about £630 after the ebay tax. For you even if prices drop by the time you get a 3080, that'll be in part countered by the additional return from selling your old cards right now for the 3070.

As you've probably experienced 3080s are rarer than hens teeth, so I wouldn't drop the 3070. You might even decide it's enough; I'm starting to lean that way.

HangTime · 16 Jan 2021 at 21:37

ASMB said:
You already have a great card and some people skip a generation of GPUs before they upgrade

The majority don't upgrade every generation; an enthusiast sub-forum like this probably gives the impression that it's more common than it actually is. I'm a non-hardcore enthusiast and typically upgrade every other generation; occasionally i wait a bit longer (stuck with 7950 quite a while), sometimes if I spot a 'good value' card I'll pull the trigger more frequently (I went 6800GT > 7900GTO > 8800GTS for example).

As for the OT, for me personally, there's no way I'd buy a card for significantly more than RRP unless I was desperate like my current card failed outside of warranty or something. Call it stubborness maybe but generally the driver for me upgrading tends to be when I think there is some value to be had (during the crypto boom 4 years ago, I snapped up a RX480 8GB I stumbled across for £146 where nearly everywhere else with stock was >£200).

That said, with RAM I have ended up paying over the odds due to the volatility, when I upgraded to Ryzen I had to pay £150 for 16GB RAM that had previously been priced at £100 or less I think.

SkillTim · 16 Jan 2021 at 21:46

philo-sofa said:
Yeah, if I were to put it on ebay I'd get about £630 after the ebay tax. For you even if prices drop by the time you get a 3080, that'll be in part countered by the additional return from selling your old cards right now for the 3070.

As you've probably experienced 3080s are rarer than hens teeth, so I wouldn't drop the 3070. You might even decide it's enough; I'm starting to lean that way.

A 3080 gave me no improvement in performance over a 3070. Make sure you have the CPU and RAM underneath it to push more frames. I'd say any CPU from the last year or two. Preferably a Ryzen 5000 series.

philo-sofa · 16 Jan 2021 at 23:59

SkillTim said:
A 3080 gave me no improvement in performance over a 3070. Make sure you have the CPU and RAM underneath it to push more frames. I'd say any CPU from the last year or two. Preferably a Ryzen 5000 series.

Very true! I was in more or less exactly your situation.

Bought the 3070 a month ago and realised just how much my old 6600K system was CPU bound in Cyberpunk: 100% usage and 30 FPS where I should have been at 50+. After getting the build a new system bug I've now replaced.. well pretty much everything bit by bit, as per my sig

Cleeecooo · 17 Jan 2021 at 00:14

SkillTim said:
A 3080 gave me no improvement in performance over a 3070. Make sure you have the CPU and RAM underneath it to push more frames. I'd say any CPU from the last year or two. Preferably a Ryzen 5000 series.

I've got an 8700K and a 4K display so I suspect the 3070 won't quite be enough

Rroff · 17 Jan 2021 at 00:29

Cleeecooo said:
I've got an 8700K and a 4K display so I suspect the 3070 won't quite be enough

Depends what you are doing - CP2077 with all settings ultra at 4K I have to use DLSS performance to get playable framerates on my 3070FE and that has a noticeable impact on image quality. Other stuff like The Division though it is doing like 60-100FPS with everything maxed at 4K.

opethdisciple · 17 Jan 2021 at 00:43

Yes too much for a 3070.

With the 3000 series they are only worth it at non scalped prices. (Excluding the 3090 which I think is over priced even for the FE)

A £600+ 3070 is paying over the odds.

Keep hunting for an FE and buy a 3070 or a 3080 what ever you can get.

At least the FE's a decently priced.

Cleeecooo · 17 Jan 2021 at 11:32

Rroff said:
Depends what you are doing - CP2077 with all settings ultra at 4K I have to use DLSS performance to get playable framerates on my 3070FE and that has a noticeable impact on image quality. Other stuff like The Division though it is doing like 60-100FPS with everything maxed at 4K.

I'm going to be using it for MSFS. Looks like the 3080 gets me a considerable number of extra FPS - mainly worried about increasing my minimum frames when coming in for landings than max frames!

I'm now in the absolutely ludicrous situation where I have bought the following 3070s:
Gigabyte Gaming OC - £650 - Arriving Wednesday
Gigabyte Eagle OC - £520 - Arriving 3-10 working days
PNY Gaming Revel EPIC-X RBG - £550 - No idea when it's arriving

I think I may aswell take delivery of them and stick them on the MM for anyone who hasn't had the time or resources to spend on Discord all day.