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30xx Series Founders Edition

I've been looking at a few YouTube videos on undervolting.
Sounds pretty beneficial however I was wondering how they undervolt and over lock or do people generally just undervolt the 3080?
 
What clocks are you guys getting out of the box with the 3090FE?
I'm on 1965MHz GPU
9751MHz on the memory

Idle looking at GPU 210MHz
Memory 405MHz.

I think my old 1080Ti extreme used to boost to about 2060 out of the box, obviously a completely different architecture.
 
evohicks said:
What clocks are you guys getting out of the box with the 3090FE?
I'm on 1965MHz GPU
9751MHz on the memory

Idle looking at GPU 210MHz
Memory 405MHz.

I think my old 1080Ti extreme used to boost to about 2060 out of the box, obviously a completely different architecture.
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Broadly similar. Card boost's in 15Mhz increments, so normally see 1995 or so - 1980 Mhz or so. Got a solid sample though so applied my own profile undervolting / overclocking.

michty_me said:
I've been looking at a few YouTube videos on undervolting.
Sounds pretty beneficial however I was wondering how they undervolt and over lock or do people generally just undervolt the 3080?
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Can do both. The stock voltage profile is very heavy handed I found. my normal profiles for daily use undervolt and overclock (compared to stock). Do note however if needed, such as heavy benchmarking or RT games, the card will still draw on max power. Really a matter of messing with it and is a good way of learning the chips behaviour at various voltage points IMO.
 
Gerard said:
To me it's nuts that people are paying over double the price for like 10% or so over the 3080 just because of availability. It's very suspect that the 3080 rarely comes into stock yet the higher priced card shows up almost like clockwork be it FE or AIB.

I think both amd and nvidia are playing it "cute" this time around with availability of these cards, just a little trickle now and then to keep the baying hounds appeased. Though AMD might need to get their their trickle checked by a Dr as it hasn't existed since last year.
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If you are using VR and want to maintain 90hz, then the extra 10/15/20% performance makes all the difference...

And I think if Nvidia could have the shelves full of RTX3000 series cards, they would, why would they want to cripple their business?
 
f1racer said:
If you are using VR and want to maintain 90hz, then the extra 10/15/20% performance makes all the difference...

And I think if Nvidia could have the shelves full of RTX3000 series cards, they would, why would they want to cripple their business?
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All the difference at over double the cost, not exactly an enticing proposition.

As for stock, it wouldn't surprise me if the fe cards are made an sold at a loss as they're put together better than just about any of their aib partners. There's not a single aib card i can look at and think it looks better made than what nvidia are doing at substantially lower cost, and if aib's can't get to a similar quality level at a higher price then nvidia must be taking a hit on selling the FE cards for what they are. So if that's the case (and i'm not saying it is) it makes sense to make them scare and phase them out pretty quickly.

The whole point of the FE naming was to keep the reference design in production longer and that's also allegedly why they raised the price as they said it was "painful" to keep producing the cards at their original reference card price point.

This video from the 1080 launch talks about it and also mentions some of the above with the card selling at a loss or at the least very tight margins. Though they say its "painful" to keep it in production so presumably sold at a loss.


 
f1racer said:
If you are using VR and want to maintain 90hz, then the extra 10/15/20% performance makes all the difference...

And I think if Nvidia could have the shelves full of RTX3000 series cards, they would, why would they want to cripple their business?
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I'm in VR with a G1 Reverb. I think I can get 10% more performance by turning down one setting, one notch.
 
Radox-0 said:
Can do both. The stock voltage profile is very heavy handed I found. my normal profiles for daily use undervolt and overclock (compared to stock). Do note however if needed, such as heavy benchmarking or RT games, the card will still draw on max power. Really a matter of messing with it and is a good way of learning the chips behaviour at various voltage points IMO.
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Thanks, I've only ever done undervolting on a 1070 laptop with some good success so interested to learn how to OC also.
How do you go about discovering the max memory speed and core speeds? Just edgge it up a little at a time? Any videos you can recommend to watch?
I'm coming from an AMD card so not used Afterburner much.
 
michty_me said:
Thanks, I've only ever done undervolting on a 1070 laptop with some good success so interested to learn how to OC also.
How do you go about discovering the max memory speed and core speeds? Just edgge it up a little at a time? Any videos you can recommend to watch?
I'm coming from an AMD card so not used Afterburner much.
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Yep, increase it in small increments, test, then increase, test, etc, until you see performance drop, then go down a notch.
 
Gerard said:
All the difference at over double the cost, not exactly an enticing proposition.
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Didn't mention the cost! Yes over double for the cost for no where near double the performance... That's top end hardware. For me, I want everything I can chuck at my HP G2, and its only money, you can't take it with you.
 
f1racer said:
But you can't run SS at 100%, ultra/high detail. I don't want to turn down settings...
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I'm running 150% SS on my G1 (which is what steam VR recommended). I would need another 50-60% performance to max out my current favorite title (Project Cars 2) under all conditions. There is no GPU on the market that can max it out on the Reverb at 90fps. So it's not a question of "if" settings will get turned down, but which ones and how much.

A 3090 would allow me to turn on "detailed grass" or turn "environment map" from medium to high...maybe ultra, or "track detail" from medium to high, or...well a lot of "or" not so much "and".

Oh and I need to update my sig. I'm on a 3080 FE now....done.
 
Gerard said:
As for stock, it wouldn't surprise me if the fe cards are made an sold at a loss as they're put together better than just about any of their aib partners. There's not a single aib card i can look at and think it looks better made than what nvidia are doing at substantially lower cost, and if aib's can't get to a similar quality level at a higher price then nvidia must be taking a hit on selling the FE cards for what they are. So if that's the case (and i'm not saying it is) it makes sense to make them scare and phase them out pretty quickly.
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not necessarily. the difference is that nvidia doesn't have to pay nvidia's price for the chipset and memory like the AIB's do. it's gonna be cheaper for nvidia, so might still turn a profit on a more elaborate card.
 
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