Are joggers the new cyclists?

and the only thing that has ever held me up is slow motorists.

agree ... motorists that don't have the particular set of skills to overtake cyclists, or, other slower vehicles, or,
for whom the broken line in the middle of the road is no mans land. ..... it will only get worse with self-driving cars ?
 
What do you do when you get to a queue of traffic? Do you get irrationally annoyed at the cars in front?

Reality is cyclists are rarely "holding up" car drivers as the car driver will inevitably hit a queue/traffic light and spend the "gained" time there instead.

Or they might make the green on the lights and avoid having to wait. You make it sound like cars aren't getting anywhere more quickly by going slower.

It's not inevitable that a cyclist catches up to a car. Otherwise what you are saying is that a car is not a faster mode of transport.

It's also similar to how some people believe that because the average speed in cities tend to be 20mph, that a 20mph speed limit does no harm. Actually if 20mph was the speed limit then then the average speed would become 15mph.

Saying that I've never excessively been held up by a cyclist. 99% of roads allow an overtake.
 
Saying that I've never excessively been held up by a cyclist. 99% of roads allow an overtake.

Around where I live it isn't so easy - which results in many drivers just brushing past cyclists. My commute to work is half hour of roads like this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Q3UqU2ns6M

(I'm not as close to the cyclist as it looks - tall vehicle and wide angle lens contracts distance)

And during the months when the weather is OK you can run into as many as half a dozen cyclists on the route which makes it a complete pain and I not uncommonly see near misses or other incidents (personally I would consider it taking my life in my hands to cycle it).
 
Around where I live it isn't so easy - which results in many drivers just brushing past cyclists. My commute to work is half hour of roads like this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Q3UqU2ns6M

(I'm not as close to the cyclist as it looks - tall vehicle and wide angle lens contracts distance)

And during the months when the weather is OK you can run into as many as half a dozen cyclists on the route which makes it a complete pain and I not uncommonly see near misses or other incidents (personally I would consider it taking my life in my hands to cycle it).

I probably wouldn't drive right up to the back of a cyclist. I'd give myself room to accelerate. Also need a more powerful car :p

That also wasn't that bad in the end. Cyclist was keeping to the left making it feasible to pass.
 
I probably wouldn't drive right up to the back of a cyclist. I'd give myself room to accelerate. Also need a more powerful car :p

It was actually kind of tricky in that respect - problem is this truck has the electronics/transmission based off the 370Z beaten into pickup use - which mostly works really well but it tries to automatically change profile (no way to override fully) when it thinks you are changing from road driving to conditions that need low down power, etc. and trying to stay behind a cyclist on a hill like that was really messing with it alternating between not giving enough power for the hill and giving too much power - I could have set the range manually but it doesn't guarantee it will stay in that range and would have meant faffing about and possibly taking my eyes from the road as I don't use the feature often except off-road.

EDIT: I believe I had some weight in the back as well.

EDIT2: I was quite a bit further back than it looks as well - there is a whole lot of road between my bumper and where you see the road start from the camera's perspective due to being mounted close to the same plane as the bonnet in a high up vehicle.

That also wasn't that bad in the end. Cyclist was keeping to the left making it feasible to pass.

Most of them do to be fair - but when you have to do that multiple times in one journey it becomes a pain - fortunately it is mostly the summer months but still. Aside from 6 miles of dual-carriageway all the rest of the road is like that lots of hills and corners with only short bits you can overtake safely.
 
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That also wasn't that bad in the end. Cyclist was keeping to the left making it feasible to pass

hopefully it was a flippant remark -
Rroff overtook responsibly the other 'driver' squeezed past in the face of an oncoming car,
the cyclists are neither in the other carriageway, nor anywhere near the centre, so it's 'feasible' to pass,
.... the police do need to institute that proposed law.
 
hopefully it was a flippant remark -
Rroff overtook responsibly the other 'driver' squeezed past in the face of an oncoming car,
the cyclists are neither in the other carriageway, nor anywhere near the centre, so it's 'feasible' to pass,
.... the police do need to institute that proposed law.

Personally don't have a problem with most cyclists in respect to their use of the road it is just unfortunate the roads are so busy these days it makes for a less than ideal situation - I've not missed it this year TBH with the reduced amount of traffic for good chunks of it means I can get around cyclists with the minimum time spent crawling behind them at 10-15 MPH.

Though I do get a bit frustrated with a few bits where there is a perfectly good cycle lane just off the road and they don't use it though as I've mentioned before in some cases the cycle lane implementation is pants on head retarded and I can understand why cyclists don't use those bits.
 
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