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RTX 3070 vs RX 6800 opinions

OverDrive

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Just trying to get some opinions on how these two GPU families compare. I am considering either:

1. Gigabyte GeForce RTX 3070 8GB AORUS MASTER (£689.99 - on pre-order, expected March)

2. Sapphire RADEON RX 6800 NITRO+ OC 16GB (£749.99)

I noticed the RX 6800 has twice as much VRAM.

I was going to build using a 5900X, however I’ve decided to go ahead with the 5800X at the current OCUK price! I’ve been waiting so long to build. The main application will be running my flight sims (x-plane 11 and the new MS Flight Simulator).

Slightly annoyed that I’m having to pay 3080 prices for either of these cards, appreciate it’s the way of the world at the moment. I think I can sell my current GTX 1070 for £250-300 though, so perhaps that will go some way towards the inflated GPU prices right now.

Any feedback/advice would be appreciated.
Thanks.
 
If you plan on keeping it a longer time, the 6800 is likely worth it for the extra memory.
If RT is important to you, how does the performance compare on that in the games you play?
 
You'll miss out on DLSS, but for simulator games I'd think the memory would matter more, which makes the 6800 the better choice. From what I recall, the 6800 is also faster in terms of raw performance.
 
My overall impression so far has been that my 6800 has blown the 3070 out of the water so long as raytracing isn't a bit thing.

Also found a lot more overclocking headroom with the 6800 to make it near comparable to a stock 6800xt
 
The answer depends on how prevalent DLSS will be.

6800 is something like 10 to 15% better without DLSS and RT off.

Neither are serious 4K native cards at max settings, so I'd be surprised if memory every became a problem.
 
Do you have Freesync of Gsync monitor?

If it's one that supports both what matter more to you, Ray tracing performance or having more memory (useful for heavily modded games and things like flight sims which you mention)?
 
Thanks for all the replies guys! I've ordered the Sapphire RADEON RX 6800 NITRO+ OC 16GB from OCUK and requested a cancellation of the RTX 3070 pre-order.

Nemesis.ie said:
If RT is important to you, how does the performance compare on that in the games you play?
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None of my current games use RT, although it's possible they will with future updates. It's good that AMD are supporting it now though.

opethdisciple said:
Do you have Freesync of Gsync monitor?
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My monitor does support Freesync - I've never been able to use it though as I have an NVIDIA card - I had forgotten about that! I think my monitor only has a basic implementation of it though as it's not a gaming display by design - I do love the ultra wide format though.

eeii said:
To be honest they are both 200 sheets over priced.
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I agree, it just seems unavoidable at the moment! The only positive is that under the current conditions my current ROG STRIX GTX 1070 OC seems to be able to fetch £250, which is around £100 more than last year. So that combined with the current OCUK offer of £379 on the 5800X should at least cover £100 of the inflated GPU price.

I really wanted the 5900X - I've not had any luck finding one. However, the 5800X will be fine for my needs, still a massive jump from my current 3770K!
 
Honestly neither - the 6800 will give you more performance right now in games that you aren't struggling with performance anyway, the 3070 will do a bit better in some newer games where you will be struggling with performance on either (i.e. Cyberpunk with all settings ultra). Both will likely be relatively short lived GPUs at 1440p upwards in the longer run and as mentioned GPUs generally are silly overpriced at the moment.

The sweet spot really is the 3080FE and even then the VRAM isn't exactly a generous amount and good luck finding one to actually buy at a price that isn't utterly insane for what you are getting.
 
Thanks all. I'll give this some serious thought. I could always cancel the RX 6800 and transfer over my GTX 1070 to the new rig and wait for prices to normalise later in the year (hopefully). However, the new CPU will be severely bottle necked. I was very happy to get a 5800X for £379, so am quite keen to build now if I can. I've been looking all over and any 3080 FEs are going for well over £1K which is insane considering the NVIDIA price for the FE is £650! It's also a minefield out there with many fake ads designed to trick bots etc.

As said above, I was hoping the £50-100 more I can get for my current GPU in this climate combined with the competitive OCUK 5800X price would go some way towards damage limitation. It's annoying having to pay £200 more than a GPU should be worth though.
 
OverDrive said:
Thanks all. I'll give this some serious thought. I could always cancel the RX 6800 and transfer over my GTX 1070 to the new rig and wait for prices to normalise later in the year (hopefully). However, the new CPU will be severely bottle necked. I was very happy to get a 5800X for £379, so am quite keen to build now if I can. I've been looking all over and any 3080 FEs are going for well over £1K which is insane considering the NVIDIA price for the FE is £650! It's also a minefield out there with many fake ads designed to trick bots etc.

As said above, I was hoping the £50-100 more I can get for my current GPU in this climate combined with the competitive OCUK 5800X price would go some way towards damage limitation. It's annoying having to pay £200 more than a GPU should be worth though.
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I've spent the last 2 weeks (since building my new PC) trying to get a better deal than a 3070 or 6800 for around £700 - £750 and have failed. I'm using stock alerts discord but whenever anything that's actually good value comes in it's gone by the time I can get to checkout. It's a very frustrating experience and you're probably as well having ordered that RX 6800 as it's a good card.
 
The 6800 has a slight lead in MS Flight simulator, https://youtu.be/5mXQ1NxEQ1E?t=665

I paid £600 for a reference 6800 which was annoying given the MRSP. However, I had made a profit on the card it replaced so it worked out ok for me. If you do end up having to buy a 6800 now at least its still hundreds cheaper than a 2080ti which is generally outclassed by the 6800
 
opethdisciple said:
Also I echo what people have said above on the prices you are looking to pay.

Neither is a good option.

Try and grab a 3080FE at those prices.
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At this rate by the time that is possible we'll be hearing about the 4080 :rolleyes:

I don't regret getting the 6800 while I could. Prices are only going to increase. 30 series cards are targeted by bots because of their mining profitability.
 
use 6800 as a stopgap tbh, have a proper rig to play for the time being and sell the GPU when you could get hold of a 3080/6800xt.
 
qqmoo said:
use 6800 as a stopgap tbh, have a proper rig to play for the time being and sell the GPU when you could get hold of a 3080/6800xt.
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Not really much point in moving from a 6800 to a 3080/6800xt as your only talking about 10~15% performance at most. RDNA3 is coming next year with MCM and supposedly double the performance of the current cards so I'd hold out for that or whatever nvidia brings out next for a proper upgrade and hopefully by then the global situation will have improved.
 
I have an RTx3080, bought an Sapphire Nitro 6800 out of boredom and all i can say is that the overclocked 6800 is just as fast as the 3080 in 1440p, depends on game but overall its + - 5%. A 3070 is far slower. As you can get maybe 5% out of ampere with OC. Keep the 6800. 8gb VRAM is a joke.

6800 OC = 6800XT Stock = 3080 Stock / OC is useless.
 
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