Why, do you know something the professionals don't?
No service this year.
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Manufacturers don't care about longevity only working up until the warranty period.
Why do other manufacturers offer a 10 year warranty for instance? And also say 10k miles or 12 months max for petrol and 20k miles or 12 months whatever comes first for diesel
Why do Castrol specify 18k/24 months. They don't make cars.
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Because they make them to spec for the manufacturer.
That's why. If BMW say this is the spec of oil our car requires they aren't going to go and manufacturer an oil and write different guidelines for it.
Explain why Kia offer a 10 year warranty and request yearly or 10k oil changes then?
So because one manufacturer states 12 month servicing all cars should be.
If there is any evidence that modern fully synthetic oils can't survive 24 months I'll give it a read.
I was always under the impression it was more the heat cycles that mattered most, that was what broke down the chains. Not an arbitrary number of months.
Anyway I didn't start this thread for all these armchair expert opinions.
I was just amazed how little distance id traveled last year.
1990s Kia's were 6000 miles and 6 months. Why is double that okay now?
And Kia in the US is completely different again.
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US will have different laws and regulations regarding specs no doubt. Their petrol is different for example.
They likley changed it because 6 months is unlikely required for their cars. I'd do 6 months if I was driving an expensive performance sports car like a Porsche 911 turbo or an Audi R8.
There's a reason why you can have two of the exact same car and one falls apart after 100k miles why the other keeps going for 350k miles.
Regular servicing and 2 years is far too long. Car engines are expensive and lots of moving parts. Spending £50 a year on top quality oil and half a day changing the oil and filter yearly is hardly a huge outlay. Even better if you have a local independent who if you provide him all the fluids and filter will do it for £40-£60 cash.
You could also ask why if the legal requirement is to change a tyre once it's 1.6mm a lot prefer to do it at 2mm.
It's performance has degraded significantly at 1.6mm same with oil after 2 years or 18k miles.
Your talking rubbish.
There is evidence of how tyres perform at all ranges.
Show me the evidence of oils being useless at 24 months and I will rip my service book up and replace it with the Psycho Sonny service guide.
I change every 5k miles oil and filter. Usually 2 years to do that mileage since i use 2 cars and rotate daily. This time car will go over 3 years till i change oil. Oil doesnt doesnt expire sitting in the sump and iv had the car for 22 years and still going strong.
However if its direct injection turbo then fuel dilution is a major issue and would change oil sooner unless when its driven it runs long enough to get up to temp and evaporate diluted fuel in oil.
However if its direct injection turbo then fuel dilution is a major issue and would change oil sooner unless when its driven it runs long enough to get up to temp and evaporate diluted fuel in oil.
The fact your oil only costs that much says a lot. Just the oil from Euro and the cheapest they offer is £79 for mine. Filter is another £20.
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I stretched my last service to 18 months and will do so again. I'm barely using it at the moment. I know its not just about mileage, but a few extra months won't hurt when I've done less than 4000 miles. May stretch it to 2 years.
That's not the good stuff, that's the Triple Qx. Shell Helix comes to £112 for oil.
Id rather use a good oil for 2 yrs than assume more often is better and then skimp on the oil with some cheap oil and filter just to say you have changed it.
To P Sonny point I have a 10 yr old M3 with a rather expensive engine, I am happy with 2yr oil changes. The last two oil samples of the used oil looked fine as expected. There is no reason for an oil to suddenly change once it becomes more than a year old.
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I think there is definitely a valid argument here somewhere though. Top shelf oil for a longer time or cheaper oil for a shorter period.
Personally I'd worry when buying any car if the oil of any value had not been changed in line with manufacturers guidance. I don't know why anyone would go outside of these realms unless they were keeping the car forever. Not being able to answer a black and white question like "has it been serviced in line with the recommended intervals?" is not a question to stumble on.
Personally I'd worry when buying any car if the oil of any value had not been changed in line with manufacturers guidance. I don't know why anyone would go outside of these realms unless they were keeping the car forever. Not being able to answer a black and white question like "has it been serviced in line with the recommended intervals?" is not a question to stumble on.
I am sticking to the guidelines, 18k/2 years is my service schedule.