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How likely am I to get a Nvidia GeForce RTX 3060 at MSRP?

danlightbulb said:
Scott just because the AIBs haven't priced close doesn't mean they couldn't. How is it they were able to produce 5700XTs for £400 or 1660 Super's for <£200 less than a year ago?

The AIBs are scalping plain and simple. There's nothing that OCUK can do about it but please don't disrespect people here by repeating this bull****.

A plain 3060 for nearly the same price as a 3060Ti is a joke no matter which way you spin it.
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The first response in this thread, and many following, blames the resellers, and only the resellers for the pricing...Do you honestly think I'm out of order responding to that?

You might understand that Nvidia and the AIBs are involved but you appear to be in a minority and I'm frankly sick of the resellers being lumped with all of the blame.
 
ScottiB said:
The first response in this thread, and many following, blames the resellers, and only the resellers for the pricing...Of course I'm going to respond.

You might understand that Nvidia and the AIBs are involved but you appear to be in a minority and I'm frankly sick of the resellers being lumped with all of the blame.
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That's fair enough. I'm not blaming the resellers. The AIBs (and maybe Nvidia, not sure really) need to be shamed as its a joke as Gibbo says.

In a broken market its transparency that helps. Shame the AIBs for their cost pricing, make it public and show they are to blame. Put the pressure back on them.
 
ScottiB said:
You might understand that Nvidia and the AIBs are involved but you appear to be in a minority and I'm frankly sick of the resellers being lumped with all of the blame.
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Someone's making a killing somewhere along the line. I'm sure it's not entirely the resellers, but if OCUK can obtain stock at £500 per unit (already gouged £200 by the AIB) and then sell it at £700 per unit, then that's exactly what OCUK will do. You're operating a business, but as far as the consumer goes, there's nothing good in any of this.
 
The whole thing is screwed isn't it to be fair.

Every card sells instantly no matter what stupid pricing is attached.

Whether there is enough supply for a normal year or not, who knows. Nvidia and AMD both completely silent on the issue. Fingers in ears la la la la.

AIBs silent, churning out cards and selling every single one of them.

Scalpers grabbing the FEs and reselling on ebay for 3x the price.


The only solution is not to participate as some have already done.
 
Squink said:
Someone's making a killing somewhere along the line. I'm sure it's not entirely the resellers, but if OCUK can obtain stock at £500 per unit (already gouged £200 by the AIB) and then sell it at £700 per unit, then that's exactly what OCUK will do. You're operating a business, but as far as the consumer goes, there's nothing good in any of this.
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Right now I think £500 for the cheaper cards is roughly where I'd expect these to be. The only problem is that we've already been told to expect even more GPU price increases next month :eek:
Therefore we definitely can't risk selling hundreds of cards at todays pricing only to end up having to fulfil at a loss again.
 
ScottiB said:
Right now I think £500 for the cheaper cards is roughly where I'd expect these to be. The only problem is that we've already been told to expect even more GPU price increases next month :eek:
Therefore we definitely can't risk selling hundreds of cards at todays pricing only to end up having to fulfil at a loss again.
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Wow more price increases ... Demand is sure driving the pricing up - I'd wonder what the price would be without the whole mining craze.
 
djxput said:
Wow more price increases ... Demand is sure driving the pricing up - I'd wonder what the price would be without the whole mining craze.
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to be fair to everyone in the chain it's not just people charging more because they can. There are price increases on pretty much every component, from VRM, VRAM, chokes, capacitors etc...all the way down to sodding cardboard! on top of that shipping costs are still increasing. Containers that used to cost $1200 are being charged at ten times that.
It's enough to make me scream at times.
 
ScottiB said:
to be fair to everyone in the chain it's not just people charging more because they can. There are price increases on pretty much every component, from VRM, VRAM, chokes, capacitors etc...all the way down to sodding cardboard! on top of that shipping costs are still increasing. Containers that used to cost $1200 are being charged at ten times that.
It's enough to make me scream at times.
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Funny how FE prices have remained constant.......... Not a single price increase.

Or do you see that changing?
 
ScottiB said:
to be fair to everyone in the chain it's not just people charging more because they can. There are price increases on pretty much every component, from VRM, VRAM, chokes, capacitors etc...all the way down to sodding cardboard! on top of that shipping costs are still increasing. Containers that used to cost $1200 are being charged at ten times that.
It's enough to make me scream at times.
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Cheers for putting the situation into context. I think many will have understood the price rises were scalper led, private or otherwise. But what you say, the demand from mining and needless brexit import shenanigans - sounds a right headache for resale.
 
Dontrocktheboat said:
Funny how FE prices have remained constant.......... Not a single price increase.

Or do you see that changing?
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Nvidia take by far the largest margin on all Nvidia cards sold, so if anyone can swallow price increases it'll be them. If you look at their financial numbers it's clear that their profit margins are unusually high for this industry.

https://nvidianews.nvidia.com/news/...tlook for the fourth,or minus 50 basis points.

Then there's the "RRP" for reviews which they always have an eye on since reviews are very important for them and a £100 difference there can be the decider between the reviewer recommending Nvidia over AMD.
 
Hi there

Look at the OcUK webshop, nothing is available, if we put anything online, say even a 3070 at £800 they sell at a rate of literally 100 units per minute, we could list them at £1200 and people would still be buying them.

The situation right now in the world regarding GPU's and some other items is a total mess, GPU's have become this rare like material that people will pay well over the odds for.

Those who can grab FE cards at MSRP, good on you, because that is the best way, then you can sell your old GPU at such a high price you can more or less cover your new at MSRP GPU purchase.

The situation going forward seems to be worsening, I really hope it is just an after effect of CNY, but the more sinister side of me is saying we will not be seeing any volume of new GPU's now for rest of the year, because the stock is either going direct to miners, AIB's are mining themselves or end users mining themselves are just to quick at buying stock up. In short there is so little stock incoming we basically have nothing to sell at present.
 
Gibbo said:
Look at the OcUK webshop, nothing is available, if we put anything online, say even a 3070 at £800 they sell at a rate of literally 100 units per minute, we could list them at £1200 and people would still be buying them.
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Just to clarify this. We don't have the capability to limit sales if they come in this fast. When everything is running perfectly there's at least 15 minutes between stock selling out and the website being able to stop the sales...at times that has been much, much longer.

We are investing in improved IT across the board, we've been working on it for quite a while and everything is due to roll out this year, but for now we have to sell graphics cards in bursts. Manually monitoring sales and guessing when we need to cut them off.
 
ScottiB said:
Just to clarify this. We don't have the capability to limit sales if they come in this fast. When everything is running perfectly there's at least 15 minutes between stock selling out and the website being able to stop the sales...at times that has been much, much longer.

We are investing in improved IT across the board, we've been working on it for quite a while and everything is due to roll out this year, but for now we have to sell graphics cards in bursts. Manually monitoring sales and guessing when we need to cut them off.
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Even with the best websites though, our competition is facing similar issues and is the same very reason why competitors are also holding back stock and not placing it online because if you get 500+ people all trying to order within the same 60s due to how websites work it is totally impossible to prevent an over-sale situation.

Crazy times and until things have calmed or the stock improves drastically the popular cards won't be going on sale or been offered for a long time, not until we have at least 1000+ inventory, because at least then we can manage it better.

My advise at present is simply try to buy an FE card and pray you get one, it is so difficult because the normal buyer does not get a look in because people have scripts, I know someone who has managed to get nearly 10x 3080 FE cards because he has scripts/BOT's written to grab/notify him the moment they are listed and he has done well getting them. But that means regular shoppers generally do not stand a chance unless very lucky.
 
Dontrocktheboat said:
FE is the only way to go, we live in rip of Britain especially now we left the safety and relative protection of common EU market.
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Why don't you just pop onto Amazon Germany and buy yourself a couple of 3080s at RRP? They'll happily deliver to the UK, you know. Oh wait, there are none in stock at Amazon Germany. Let's try Amazon France....no, none there either, though there's a single 2080ti available at 1600 euros. That's a bargain, but you'd best be quick as there's only that one card available.

I wish people would stop this tosh of blaming every single ill on our leaving europe.
 
Squink said:
Why don't you just pop onto Amazon Germany and buy yourself a couple of 3080s at RRP? They'll happily deliver to the UK, you know. Oh wait, there are none in stock at Amazon Germany. Let's try Amazon France....no, none there either, though there's a single 2080ti available at 1600 euros. That's a bargain, but you'd best be quick as there's only that one card available.

I wish people would stop this tosh of blaming every single ill on our leaving europe.
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But I some imports coming in from US?
With tariff, import tax all payed for with shipping from USA all under the MRSP.

Amazing, look at that. :eek:
 
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