Pontins black lists people with common Irish surnames.
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My understanding is that it's generally considered acceptable in Britain to discriminate against ethnicities...... so long as they're white...
If they were any other ethnicity then it would clearly be racism and Pontin's works likely be under investigation by the authorities and facing a large fine and legal action . But according to most "anti-racism" definitions you can't be racist towards white people so.....
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Yes, it does seem to be political.
England, Scotland and Wales have quite different cultures in some ways, Wales have a different language for God's sake, yet apparently we are the same ethnicity and the Irish aren't. So I don't know what yardstick they are using apart from nationalism.
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But its not generally considered acceptable even if they are white and they are being or have been investigated.My understanding is that it's generally considered acceptable in Britain to discriminate against ethnicities...... so long as they're white...
If they were any other ethnicity then it would clearly be racism and Pontin's works likely be under investigation by the authorities and facing a large fine and legal action . But according to most "anti-racism" definitions you can't be racist towards white people so.....
I think the surnames thing has likely been badly reported - it isn't so much that you can't go if your surname is on the list, like as if no Gallaghers have ever been allowed in Pontins since this rule etc.. but rather they've had issues with travelers before with those surnames and so customer service people need to check when someone with those names phones up as the'yve clearly had instances where some family has been banned (doesn't take much to imagine why) and then say the wife or brother or someone else phones up to make the booking the next time and they come back anyway.
The bit that is dodgier perhaps is the allegations re: screening *anyone* who calls up with an Irish accent but an address in Britain, that is far broader than some specific surnames of families they've already banned with good reason and they're clearly looking for addresses on caravan parks etc...
They've also banned commercial vehicles and caravans from the site, clearly targeted at travelers but not sure that in itself would get them in trouble though.
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Knew they'd be a thread on this when I saw the article this morning. I'd honestly never heard of travellers until I saw a thread bashing them a while back, never knew they were so hated and I still find it baffling that it's widely acceptable to **** on a race of people.
Yeah. Why do people dislike a group of people who travel around and bring crime and rubbish wherever they go
In that case I'll be glad to be proven wrong as usually the 2010 Equality Act is normally used as an exuse for certain groups to play identity politics and demand reverse-discrimination!
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Good on 'em, I wouldn't them at my business either. If only local councils and the government had the same amount of testicular fortitude when it comes to dealing with this marauding gang of criminals.
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Just look in the ISIS thread, you've got people claiming religion is now race, so I guess Irish is a race as much as English is a race as much as being Christian is a race
There's a reason they're banned, it's not because people have some arbitrary dislike of their accent lol
Sounds oddly sheltered that you're oblivious to travellers/gypsies and their long (hundreds of years) history of living in mobile homes, often occupying land they don't have any permission for until they move on of their own will or not and their reputation of taking liberties with the property and goods of homes and businesses in the area around them.
Bottom line is they are extremely eccentric, turn up in significant numbers and basically squat on any available land where they can park their vehicles. They are unlikely to be open with how they finance themselves partly because you're an outsider asking and partly because it's sketchy as hell.
They have some rights to live as they do but the disruption they bring is rarely welcome.
Yeah, I think "travellers" is actually quite a nice word for them and that's where @explicit4u is finding conceptual favour. "Peasant scum" is better. We had some recently who pitched their tents in the local bus shelter, filled the place with crap - old books, rags, furniture, broken glass - urinated against the walls, **** behind bushes and turned the place into a trash-filled cesspit. The funny thing is no-one reported them until I did, they were there for weeks. The council then came with a rubbish truck while they were away one morning and threw everything into it - their belongings, clothes, tents, the lot - and swept the place clean again. It was quite satisfying to watch.
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Finally, a race we can all aligned our hatred against!
Except for the ones that are al'reet like Tyson.
Can't be a good ole' racist without a solid exception can we.
Except for the ones that are al'reet like Tyson.
Can't be a good ole' racist without a solid exception can we.
Of course it's political. That's what politics means. It's from the Greek polis, that means city, like metropolis. It's essentially a synonym for tribalism, but more formal. It's why political maps show boundaries, not topography. Genetic ethnicity is different and is nothing to do with anything that power or authority are interested in. Unless of course they're racist.
6/10 for the joke, but when have you ever known travellers to abide by any rule?
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Lysander's reply is not far off the reason I never knew they existed, I'd heard of the slurs they've been called but thought it was just another form of 'chav', didn't realise they're a race and a whole community. And yes I've seen Snatch.
oh cool, i'm a race then
I as many can tell you what a lot of the proper gypsies are like as they have invaded the town I grew up in pretty much.
They are for the majority a terrible bunch of people. Imagine chavs but worse.
They have no rules or manners and constantly imtemidate people and look for fights, the police are scared of them.
I don't think pontins should black list all Irish people, they are not the issue, but the majority of these gypsies are absolute scum and until you have to deal with them you don't know how bad they are.
They are for the majority a terrible bunch of people. Imagine chavs but worse.
They have no rules or manners and constantly imtemidate people and look for fights, the police are scared of them.
I don't think pontins should black list all Irish people, they are not the issue, but the majority of these gypsies are absolute scum and until you have to deal with them you don't know how bad they are.