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Not racist though unless it was said derogatively, could just be an inquisitive interest. I mean she didn't know she had to curtsy to the Queen so it's not unimaginable for someone not to understand what her baby would be like.
 
I think it always depends on context.

I'm black, my partner is white. If we had a child I would expect someone to be naturally curious and wonder if it will take more of my features or my partners features. I wouldn't be OK with someone asking "I wonder how dark it'll be" as really that doesn't make any difference.
 
I think it always depends on context.

I'm black, my partner is white. If we had a child I would expect someone to be naturally curious and wonder if it will take more of my features or my partners features. I wouldn't be OK with someone asking "I wonder how dark it'll be" as really that doesn't make any difference.

It's no different to a white couple being asked a musing comment / question whether the baby will have the mother's or father's eye colour. It's just playing the race card to play the victim especially since it's a baseless acquisition without any evidence.
 
It's no different to a white couple being asked a musing comment / question whether the baby will have the mother's or father's eye colour. It's just playing the race card to play the victim especially since it's a baseless acquisition without any evidence.
Yes it is different. You can still ask those questions regardless of who's the baby parents are.

Why does the childs complexion need to be took into consideration. They could ask whose eyes, nose, ears, lips, feet, hands or whatever else if they would be curious as to how it would look. There is no need to ask how dark a baby would be.


I've never felt the need to ask my friends "oh I wonder how white your baby would be?" because it's not relevant. But I may joke that "Oh i hope he doesn't get your dads ears" etc.


But sure, it's just playing the race card. She needs to get that chip off of her shoulder eh? :o
 
I think it always depends on context.

I'm black, my partner is white. If we had a child I would expect someone to be naturally curious and wonder if it will take more of my features or my partners features. I wouldn't be OK with someone asking "I wonder how dark it'll be" as really that doesn't make any difference.


I mean if one parent was tall and one short, someone could well ask, how tall will the child be.

If one parent was ginger and one black haired, someone could ask, what colour will their hair be.

These are genetic traits.

In an enlightened society you would think one could ask about any genetic trait without it being considered 'ist' in some way.
 
I mean if one parent was tall and one short, someone could well ask, how tall will the child be.

If one parent was ginger and one black haired, someone could ask, what colour will their hair be.

These are genetic traits.

In an enlightened society you would think one could ask about any genetic trait without it being considered 'ist' in some way.

Not in todays world, the twitter brigade are quick to jump on anything and everything they can to play the victim. The second you dispute it, your branded an 'ist' or 'bic' of some variety.
 
Its pretty obvious that the “alleged” royal who asked how dark the baby would be is charles
That's what my partner and I think too now, having watched the interview. Originally had assumed it was Prince Philip saying something along the lines of "Harry my boy you must be careful or we'll have ginger **** running round the Palace" or something like that, but now he's ruled out Charles seems like the most likely candidate.

There was quite a lot of implication throughout the interview that Charles was perhaps hostile towards them, seemingly implied that someone in the royal family was briefing the tabloids against them and with the apparent breakdown in Harry and Charles's relationship seems most likely...

I think this is one of the things I really don't like about these vague implications that 'someone' said 'something'. It just creates so much argument and drama because everyone's speculating who it was and exactly what they said (some assuming the worst and others assuming something very innocent), all while being impossible to refute because there's nothing concrete for anyone to comment on.
 
Yes it is different. You can still ask those questions regardless of who's the baby parents are.

Why does the childs complexion need to be took into consideration. They could ask whose eyes, nose, ears, lips, feet, hands or whatever else if they would be curious as to how it would look. There is no need to ask how dark a baby would be.


I've never felt the need to ask my friends "oh I wonder how white your baby would be?" because it's not relevant. But I may joke that "Oh i hope he doesn't get your dads ears" etc.


But sure, it's just playing the race card. She needs to get that chip off of her shoulder eh? :o

Neither is the colour of any of their features but in a largely Caucasian society it would be normal to be inquisitive to someone's features. I think maybe this could stem from some babies eye colour or hair colour changing as they develop so skin colour is no different. No more relevant but no reason to be offended by a characteristic, musings on how someone might look. It could be something someone older is less familiar with.
 
I mean if one parent was tall and one short, someone could well ask, how tall will the child be.

If one parent was ginger and one black haired, someone could ask, what colour will their hair be.

These are genetic traits.

In an enlightened society you would think one could ask about any genetic trait without it being considered 'ist' in some way.

And you can still ask those questions without saying "I wonder how dark it'll be".

It's not rocket science. As I said it all depends on the context but really it's an irrelevant question

Maybe I'm the odd one for thinking that it's not a question that would be beneficial to anyone.
 
Even if the query re: colour was merely inquisitive and non-malicious, as was said above, context is everything.

It’s pretty foreseeable that being the only non-white person in the family is going to make you extremely conscious of your race.... let alone in the Royal Family, which was the case here.

It’s understandable that it would potentially make her and Harry comfortable, entirely based on what was specifically said, even if it was not malicious.

The fact that it’s even been raised means if it’s not an outright lie, there was probably an insensitive comment of sorts that caused a feeling of alienation.
 
Neither is the colour of any of their features but in a largely Caucasian society it would be normal to be inquisitive to someone's features. I think maybe this could stem from some babies eye colour or hair colour changing as they develop so skin colour is no different. No more relevant but no reason to be offended by a characteristic, musings on how someone might look. It could be something someone older is less familiar with.

In which case you could just say I wonder who it's going to look more like.

I don't know enough about it to sit here and say it was/wasn't categorically racist. I'm just saying that I would find it weird if someone just asked how dark my unborn child was going to be. From my own experience I've never felt the need to ask how white my friends babies would be but I've asked who they think it's going to look more like or if they think they get certain characteristics from either parent.
 
I think this is one of the things I really don't like about these vague implications that 'someone' said 'something'. It just creates so much argument and drama because everyone's speculating who it was and exactly what they said (some assuming the worst and others assuming something very innocent), all while being impossible to refute because there's nothing concrete for anyone to comment on.

Trying to get members of the royal family into a public squabble with harry as the witless bait.

Royal or not, if you've decided it's a top plan to smear your family with gossip on a talk show it's probably for the best if they disown you.
 
I mean if one parent was tall and one short, someone could well ask, how tall will the child be.

If one parent was ginger and one black haired, someone could ask, what colour will their hair be.

These are genetic traits.

In an enlightened society you would think one could ask about any genetic trait without it being considered 'ist' in some way.

Why would you even ask the question though?

Also only an idiot would think that the baby would come out looking like Eddie Murphy.

It has 75% white DNA. And the 25% black DNA it has isn't that powerful in the dark skin side of things because it's mother could easily be mistaken for being white.

At best she looks slightly exotic like Italian, Persian, Egyptian, etc. The last thing I would be thinking when looking at Meghan is that she's from Zimbabwe.

Therefore it's a terrible question and in context of how the media has brought up race time and time again in relation to Meghan it's obvious that the reason the question was asked was either out of stupidity or racism.

She doesn't look black at all. Therefore to ask if the baby would come out looking so black you would need a flashlight to see him is racist.
 
In which case you could just say I wonder who it's going to look more like.

I don't know enough about it to sit here and say it was/wasn't categorically racist. I'm just saying that I would find it weird if someone just asked how dark my unborn child was going to be. From my own experience I've never felt the need to ask how white my friends babies would be but I've asked who they think it's going to look more like or if they think they get certain characteristics from either parent.

A lot of people wouldn't care either way since it doesn't affect them but people say all sorts as small talk. The who the baby will take after is probably more diplomatic way of putting things in this easily offended world we find ourselves. However, it's very vague and the direct alternative shouldn't be taken offensively unless said derogatively, no different from any other meaningless characteristic.
 
A lot of people wouldn't care either way since it doesn't affect them but people say all sorts as small talk. The who the baby will take after is probably more diplomatic way of putting things in this easily offended world we find ourselves. However, it's very vague and the direct alternative shouldn't be taken offensively unless said derogatively, no different from any other meaningless characteristic.

which is why context matters
 
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