*** NVIDIA GEFORCE RTX 3080 SERIES STOCK SITUATION - NO COMPETITOR DISCUSSION ***

[Gibbo]

Ports are blocked due to thousands of crappy PPE containers taking all the space, it is not fit for use so it sits there, if they had any common sense they should move them all to a disused airfield/runway and free up the ports.
This was the case months before Brexit finally happened and they are still blocking ports now as far as I know, hence ships circling off the coast awaiting space.

Even if this was not present we would still have no GPU’s and as all GPUs are air freighted from Far East they don’t get delayed much at all, only difference is a massive uplift in shipping cost. Problem is factories have nothing to ship worldwide.

We own companies in Asia, Europe, USA and Australia and all of those companies also have no GPU stock to sell and anything they get is small numbers.

 

[Tinek]

The UK seems to have one of the better drop rates for FE cards so maybe it's just AMD that's not bothering but then again OCUK did have a load of AMD cards in stock earlier in the year albeit at higher prices.

AMD cards but not from AMD - as in, from various AIBs, which is a difference. NVidia delivers FE cards to only a handful countries in the world, one of them UK. Though, I did not see any FE drops for 2 weeks now I believe. Might be normal or a sign of things to come, juding by 0 deliveries planned form AIBs to OC in the coming weeks pretty much.

 

[Tinek]

As Gibbo said, 2021 will for sure not see any improvements - all industry sources I've seen seem to be confirming that. Industry analysts agree with that too. Even if mining dies tomorrow and all cards go to gamers, situation won't improve much either. There's just too much demand and production is way too far behind, with components shortages, to catch up this year at all. Possibly not even in 2022. There's information out there that some factories are being expanded, new are being build - but that process takes years to complete in many cases. Surely not till Jun this year. That said, Bitcoin just reached record highs today again. No sign at all of any collapse, hence crypto is just expected to go even higher this year.

 

[interpol24]

As Gibbo said, 2021 will for sure not see any improvements - all industry sources I've seen seem to be confirming that. Industry analysts agree with that too. Even if mining dies tomorrow and all cards go to gamers, situation won't improve much either. There's just too much demand and production is way too far behind, with components shortages, to catch up this year at all. Possibly not even in 2022. There's information out there that some factories are being expanded, new are being build - but that process takes years to complete in many cases. Surely not till Jun this year. That said, Bitcoin just reached record highs today again. No sign at all of any collapse, hence crypto is just expected to go even higher this year.

I think the supply of silicone is the overall problem for sure but you might be understating the affect mining has on the GPU market in particular. When the current Ethereum mining craze runs its course like the Bitcoin mining craze did a few years ago the secondhand GPU market is going to be flooded with 30 series GPUs. Even if there aren't enough units to meet the demand for 30 series cards, it will alleviate the crazy demand for GPUs in general at the moment. At the very least, prices will come down again substancially.

 

[Tinek]

I think the supply of silicone is the overall problem for sure but you might be understating the affect mining has on the GPU market in particular. When the current Ethereum mining craze runs its course like the Bitcoin mining craze did a few years ago the secondhand GPU market is going to be flooded with 30 series GPUs. Even if there aren't enough units to meet the demand for 30 series cards, it will alleviate the crazy demand for GPUs in general at the moment. At the very least, prices will come down again substancially.

One detail - there's no sign at all of crypto slowing down and Eth mining running it's course this year. Might as well last next 20 years. There's no way to know. And yes, they got a bunch of gaming cards but with as low supply as there has been so far - they didn't get nearly as many as people imagine, hence not that many will end up in second hand market later.

 

[Potentail]

I’m 11th in the queue so cancelling would be foolish of me, however I completely agree with gibbos advice. I would cancel my order if I was over 100, the chance of the market stabilising over the next few months is small and even if it does get stable there are still so many orders to complete.

 

[Goosy]

Even if this was not present we would still have no GPU’s and as all GPUs are air freighted from Far East they don’t get delayed much at all, only difference is a massive uplift in shipping cost. Problem is factories have nothing to ship worldwide.

We own companies in Asia, Europe, USA and Australia and all of those companies also have no GPU stock to sell and anything they get is small numbers.

Mining farms must be so lucky!

 

[interpol24]

One detail - there's no sign at all of crypto slowing down and Eth mining running it's course this year. Might as well last next 20 years. There's no way to know. And yes, they got a bunch of gaming cards but with as low supply as there has been so far - they didn't get nearly as many as people imagine, hence not that many will end up in second hand market later.

Well, Etherium is going to be moving from proof-of-work to proof-of-stake in 2022, so that should be a hard limit on mining for that currency, though there is always the chance that by then mining of some other currency or other will have ramped up. We'll see what happens when the time comes, but I expect there will be a marked improvement in the situation for other consumers when demand from miners disappear and they dump their cards.

 

[interpol24]

I’m 11th in the queue so cancelling would be foolish of me, however I completely agree with gibbos advice. I would cancel my order if I was over 100, the chance of the market stabilising over the next few months is small and even if it does get stable there are still so many orders to complete.

Thing is, there is no reason to cancel unless you literally could not afford to buy a card from elsewhere without getting the refund from OC first. That money has been gone from our bank accounts for half a year and there's no additional risk associated with it remaining out of our accounts for more time. I'm personally still waiting for definite information regarding deliveries to Ireland and will likely cancel on principle if I'm expected to pay more just to have my card delivered, but otherwise I won't be cancelling my order.

 

[BONDPlayz]

Thing is, there is no reason to cancel unless you literally could not afford to buy a card from elsewhere without getting the refund from OC first. That money has been gone from our bank accounts for half a year and there's no additional risk associated with it remaining out of our accounts for more time. I'm personally still waiting for definite information regarding deliveries to Ireland and will likely cancel on principle if I'm expected to pay more just to have my card delivered, but otherwise I won't be cancelling my order.

If your order hasnt shipped yet, contact customer support with your order number and have it swapped through DHL since DHL aren't being so picky like DPD rn.

 

[Ur round next]

I feel like iv won the lottery getting my 3080 back in December...I feel so sorry for OcUK and all retailers who sell PC components as well as the customers who want them. Sad times indeed

 

[Tinek]

Well, Etherium is going to be moving from proof-of-work to proof-of-stake in 2022, so that should be a hard limit on mining for that currency, though there is always the chance that by then mining of some other currency or other will have ramped up. We'll see what happens when the time comes, but I expect there will be a marked improvement in the situation for other consumers when demand from miners disappear and they dump their cards.

Eth has been planning to move to pos for many years now. Phase 0 planned this year won't even do anything to mining and normal people (it's just for Devs really) and hard switch to pos doesn't even have an ETA yet. They are only loosely discussing that maybe 2022 but might as well be 2030 - we don't know.

The only thing that can really help gamers is manufacturing improvements. New production lines not just for GPUs but all other components needed. This whole problem with production seems to have been caused by corporations' penny pinching and "just in time" approach - as that was always very short sighted and set to maximise profit with not holding stock or preparing for any trouble at all. It was just a matter of time for something to happen (like pandemic) to destroy that whole system very quickly. And here we are.

 

[Potentail]

Thing is, there is no reason to cancel unless you literally could not afford to buy a card from elsewhere without getting the refund from OC first. That money has been gone from our bank accounts for half a year and there's no additional risk associated with it remaining out of our accounts for more time. I'm personally still waiting for definite information regarding deliveries to Ireland and will likely cancel on principle if I'm expected to pay more just to have my card delivered, but otherwise I won't be cancelling my order.

Yeah I do understand, I highly doubt you would receive nothing after all this so at least you know you’ll get something eventually.

 

[Ploddles]

Well, Etherium is going to be moving from proof-of-work to proof-of-stake in 2022, so that should be a hard limit on mining for that currency, though there is always the chance that by then mining of some other currency or other will have ramped up. We'll see what happens when the time comes, but I expect there will be a marked improvement in the situation for other consumers when demand from miners disappear and they dump their cards.

There are plenty of other coins to mine. The 3060 has been NERFed for Etherium but the miners are still buying as many as they can get their hands on and just mine Conflux, at the moment, instead. It probably won't be long before they hack the bios on the 3060 and are back to mining Etherium. Their is probably little chance Etherium will go to POS in 2022, more like 2025.

 

[interpol24]

If your order hasnt shipped yet, contact customer support with your order number and have it swapped through DHL since DHL aren't being so picky like DPD rn.

One customer who changed to DHL definitely got charged customs charges. I've asked directly whether those charges will apply to all Irish orders or if it's possible they won't be charged once all delivery issues have been resolved and the reply was effectively that OC views that as my problem instead of theirs.

Regardless they're not advising switching to DHL unless you expect your card to be shipped soon, which I don't. I'm well down the queue for Strix Non-OC so I would guess my order will probably cancelled before it's fulfilled.

 

[BONDPlayz]

One customer who changed to DHL definitely got charged customs charges. I've asked directly whether those charges will apply to all Irish orders or if it's possible they won't be charged once all delivery issues have been resolved and the reply was effectively that OC views that as my problem instead of theirs.

Regardless they're not advising switching to DHL unless you expect your card to be shipped soon, which I don't. I'm well down the queue for Strix Non-OC so I would guess my order will probably cancelled before it's fulfilled.

Ya you get charged when it comes into the country but you get a refund on the tax that you originally payed which I got. I swapped over so I could actually get a queue update now.

 

[interpol24]

Yeah I do understand, I highly doubt you would receive nothing after all this so at least you know you’ll get something eventually.

I think the order being cancelled by OC is very much still a possibility, but even if not there's still the chance that newer, more powerful cards at a similar price point will be released before the order can be fulfilled. Shortages do not seem to have interrupted Nvidia's release schedule so far. The main thing is right now I can't get the card I purchased for anything close to the price I paid for it and that's likely to continue for several months. There is no logical reason from the customer's perspective to opt out of the queue.

Ya you get charged when it comes into the country but you get a refund on the tax that you originally payed which I got. I swapped over so I could actually get a queue update now.

There is VAT and there is also an additional customs charge. I can't remember the exact details, but it was less than €100 for the customer whose order was delivered recently. Still a considerable amount of money and more than I'm willing to pay for OC's mistakes.

 

[BONDPlayz]

I think the order being cancelled by OC is very much still a possibility, but even if not there's still the chance that newer, more powerful cards at a similar price point will be released before the order can be fulfilled. Shortages do not seem to have interrupted Nvidia's release schedule so far. The main thing is right now I can't get the card I purchased for anything close to the price I paid for it and that's likely to continue for several months. There is no logical reason from the customer's perspective to opt out of the queue.



There is VAT and there is also an additional customs charge. I can't remember the exact details, but it was less than €100 for the customer whose order was delivered recently. Still a considerable amount of money and more than I'm willing to pay for OC's mistakes.

Its not OC mistake doh? Its brexit. Nobody had an idea what would happen until the day Brexit actually happened. The customs part is just unlucky on our part since the shortages made us wait so long for brexit to actually happen.

 

[Del-Dredd]

Its Irish goverment who is putting on the Customs charges, thought computer components were supposed to be exempt, just them trying to cash grab.

 

[BONDPlayz]

Its Irish goverment who is putting on the Customs charges, thought computer components were supposed to be exempt, just them trying to cash grab.

Ah ok, well still not something to blame OC for, none of this was their fault they didnt know what Brexit would cause in terms of irish customers orders.