Marvel Studios: The Falcon and the Winter Soldier.

fez said:
Always felt Falcon was a really rubbish character but I have been watching all the Marvel films in timeline order recently and just watched Winter Soldier again. He was decent in it. Nothing special but I think all I remember him from is his bit parts in the other films. Bit like hawkeye. Just a weak character. I think part of it is just that his "power" is a bit weak and suffers from issues with animations. He looks silly when he comes trotting in to land etc
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See I'd watch a Hawkeye/Winter Soldier buddy show. I think their individual sarcasm would gel really well.
 
Rroff said:
Please tell me that wasn't supposed to be spent ammo casings at 1:15 in that trailer.
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Congratulations, you're worse than me. :p

I'm guessing they just added that footage for the trailer, but in the series it will be from a completely different scene. Or at least I hope so. Marvel are usually pretty good when it comes to little details like that.
 
Started today and I feel it will be a great series. Loved this first episode.
Bucky dealing with his past and also the fact he killed a friends son, thats going to be a though arc to deal with, Sam finding out his donation was used to equip a character that I HATE ALREADY. Good action at the start, finding out how people are dealing with returning from the snap. I didn't even think about how any Avengers/heroes managed to afford to live, goodwill, no wage, normal issues we all have. Going to be a good series. Looking forward to next week.
 
I preferred this to the initial episode of Wandavision but it's still got big "script logic" problems where people do unrealistically dumb stuff because the script needs something else to happen which couldn't if someone used common sense.

Sam has no problem killing people and has often used guns, yet during the plane rescue the script stops him shooting anyone (and ending the scene) just so that the wingsuit scene could happen. Then after the rescue nothing is said about the C-130 on autopilot with dead US aircrew onboard which is still heading off to crash somewhere - does Falcon go back and land the plane, who knows, the scriptwriters sure don't?

TBH I found all the stuff with Bucky far better written than the early story around Sam, although his story quality picks up towards the end.
 
Enjoyed it, weird camera angles when they had Bucky talking to the shrink though.

I liked the reveal that he was hanging around with the elderly Asian guy because he was guilty about killing his son when he was the winter soldier.

Regarding the ending? Did the military con Sam in to giving up the shield (for the museum), when really they just wanted to give it to a white guy to be their new "American hero"?

Or was that not a comment on race/inequality?
 
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It was better than I expected. Not amazing but enjoyable.

I didn't like the first 2 episodes of WandaVision but that ended up being great so I'll try and have a bit of faith in Marvel this time and see what it's like once it's all out.

Certainly has potential though
 
I want to give it a chance but it's Disney, and i'm sick of superheros now, much like how they've killed zombies by over doing it.
I've not even entertained WandaVision as that show is just not intended for me.
 
ianh said:
Sam has no problem killing people and has often used guns, yet during the plane rescue the script stops him shooting anyone (and ending the scene) just so that the wingsuit scene could happen. Then after the rescue nothing is said about the C-130 on autopilot with dead US aircrew onboard which is still heading off to crash somewhere - does Falcon go back and land the plane, who knows, the scriptwriters sure don't?
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I mean, he was inside a plane, a place notoriously BAD for shooting, even ignoring the fact its a hostage situation. Then, why do they have to explicitly mentioned the retrieval of the plane? It's irrelevant to the plot, you would assume the air force would go and retrieve it though - why does Falcon have to do it? Even if it does, its just off screen. Honestly, this sounds like ridiculous nit-picking.

Overall, a decent start to the series. Slightly too much 'tell' not 'show' with the dialogue at times, but I'm hoping that's just because they are getting it out of the way for the first episode.
 
chef-borjan said:
I mean, he was inside a plane, a place notoriously BAD for shooting, even ignoring the fact its a hostage situation. Then, why do they have to explicitly mentioned the retrieval of the plane? It's irrelevant to the plot, you would assume the air force would go and retrieve it though - why does Falcon have to do it? Even if it does, its just off screen. Honestly, this sounds like ridiculous nit-picking.
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You see nit-picking, I see illogical scenes which I know were only written that way so that a really fantastic stunt could be performed when there are more logical ways to get to the same point i.e. his gun jams or is damaged by enemy - maybe some extra dialogue on looking inside the plane "they already have the hostage, I'll have to be careful and take them out hand to hand" etc, thats just a few logical ways to get to the same Wing Suit stunt end-game. Again with the C-130, just a single line of dialogue when he's in the Cafe could explain it away "great job with the rescue Falcon, the recovery team are nearly done at the C-130 crash site" etc. Again it;'s not hard to get to the same point but far more logically.
 
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