New White Gloss Paint Sucks

I didn't like the Dulux when we tried it about 6 years ago as it dried too quick and left a rough finish, clogs up the brush too quick too. We switched to Wilko own brand and it was better but I think they've since switched their formulation when their packaging changed as it's no longer as good as it was. I shall be trying the Leyland stuff next time.

The Zinsser BIN is excellent undercoat, blocks knotting marks too.
 
Gave it a go today with a 2.5L can of leyland gloss quick dry.

Got 5 and 3/4 doors done, it's no joke how fast it dries.

Roll one side, brush it down til the bubbles are all gone and you can feel it getting tacky as you're brushing.

Can't be sure how well it covers on its own because there's 2-3 coats of emulsion under it but looks alright and its lost the chalky feel of the matte emulsion which I hope will mean it stains less.
 
What type of roller are you using @Hotwired? I found I would get lots of bubbles with a foam roller but using a standard roller it was ok and did not need brushing down.

FYI I use the dulux trade quick dry water based gloss and undercoat. I also remove my doors and paint them laying down on trestles which is only annoying in that you have to flip them over when dry.
 
fobose said:
What type of roller are you using @Hotwired? I found I would get lots of bubbles with a foam roller but using a standard roller it was ok and did not need brushing down.

FYI I use the dulux trade quick dry water based gloss and undercoat. I also remove my doors and paint them laying down on trestles which is only annoying in that you have to flip them over when dry.
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Just basic rollers, a bit fluffy.

Been rolling the paint on over emulsion and no bubbles but then a handful of seconds later there's hundreds of tiny bubbles so lightly swiping up and down the door with a 3" paintless brush until no bubbles.
 
You can imagine my disgust after I removed all the radiators, flushed them, lightly sanded them and then painted them with Hammerite radiator paint gloss only to find they'd turned yellow literally within a couple of months. It they' kept white, then at least the smell from the radiators after being turned on for the first few weeks would have been worth it. :mad:

If anybody has recommendations for decent white gloss paint for radiators, I'm all ears. Ideally I'd want it to stay white for at least a year.
 
darael said:
You can imagine my disgust after I removed all the radiators, flushed them, lightly sanded them and then painted them with Hammerite radiator paint gloss only to find they'd turned yellow literally within a couple of months. It they' kept white, then at least the smell from the radiators after being turned on for the first few weeks would have been worth it. :mad:

If anybody has recommendations for decent white gloss paint for radiators, I'm all ears. Ideally I'd want it to stay white for at least a year.
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The same Layland Trade Water Based Gloss White as per already linked to previously in this thread.

Been on the radiators in our current property for 2 years. No issues of peeling, no yellowing, easy clean, easy refresh coat

It's all in the prep. If you have a good surface light sand with an abrasive pad and paint away. Just make sure they are cold otherwise it dries in seconds.

It is surprisingly resilient to cold and heat and performs better than spec. Outside panels/fascia painted with it have survived plenty of frosts and snow. Inside radiators again no issues.
 
I’ve used a few brands of water based gloss and tbh they’re all pretty much the same , the final finish is all in the technique which is basically splodge it on , lay it off and do not touch it again until it’s dry
 
I have used a lot of water based paints.

Johnstone's aqua gloss is a nice in between, it's known as a "hybrid". It still yellows slightly but takes a lot longer to do so. It's a lot tougher just like oil based is and it gives a lovely sheen with no brush strokes.

It's my paint of choice.

I have tried bedec, which was good. Better finish than Leyland trade gloss but you certainly are up against the clock. If you notice a run or a drip you can't lay it off as it will just streak with the brush.

I tried Leyland fast drying water based gloss on my hall landing and stairs. I found it hard work if I'm honest as the brush strokes are very visible. It seems a lot thinner than the other paints. It does the job, but it certainly has the worst finish of the lot when it comes to brush strokes.
 
Bedec MSP is a godsend - I use it on all of my external wood as well as internal
 
Yeah, Satin is what you want now, unless you get an expensive water based one.

We got a proper cheap B&A one once, proper yellow smokers stain colour :p
 
When I painted the windows last year I couldn't even find any oil based paint for sale had to use water based wasn't happy but seems to be holding up so far.

I don't miss the gloss I remember my father doing it you needed to keep the windows open for a couple of days partly because it took so long to dry and party because it stank so much
 
I’m under the impression that modern gloss white paints need sunlight on them to keep them from fading. It’s the uv in the light that keeps the white bleached stopping it from going yellow.
Has anyone else heard of that? I’ve seen it happen in my bathroom where the paint being the door is yellowing before area exposed to more light
 
My bathroom doesn't have a window @Donnie Fisher and all of the gloss work was dark yellow in there. I've redecorated it using dulux trade water based quick dry gloss and it has stayed white since (9 months and counting). All of my cupboard doors I painted in Sept 2019 have stayed white too (inside and out).
 
theone8181 said:
I've found putting an undercoat onto of the oil based stuff gives a good base for the water based stuff.
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I always undercoat, sometimes two coats. Glossing is a bit of a faff and I would rather not paint multiple layers of gloss on gloss to get it right.
 
darael said:
You can imagine my disgust after I removed all the radiators, flushed them, lightly sanded them and then painted them with Hammerite radiator paint gloss only to find they'd turned yellow literally within a couple of months. It they' kept white, then at least the smell from the radiators after being turned on for the first few weeks would have been worth it. :mad:

If anybody has recommendations for decent white gloss paint for radiators, I'm all ears. Ideally I'd want it to stay white for at least a year.
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If you're used to draining the system and removing them, I'd be inclined to bin the old ones and replace if they're bog standard white radiators, not fancy designer ones, as they're fairly inexpensive from Screwfix, Toolstation etc.
 
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