It’s all kicking off in Bristol

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ebilcake said:
Police had enough resources, they decided not to intervene and were quoted saying that many times. Don't try and turn this into a funding issue, because it not.
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Yet in reality:

https://www.itv.com/news/westcountr...fficers-speak-out-as-force-hit-by-budget-cuts

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-47225797


ebilcake said:
It's been two tier policing, groups even slightly right leaning get full riot gear
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Source?
 
ebilcake said:
Police had enough resources, they decided not to intervene and were quoted saying that many times. Don't try and turn this into a funding issue, because it not.

It's been two tier policing, groups even slightly right leaning get full riot gear and the extreme left get police and politicians kneeling for them. I have no sympathy for the police at this point.
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5g, anti-vax, and think Clinton is a lizard too I imagine?
 
ebilcake said:
Police had enough resources, they decided not to intervene and were quoted saying that many times. Don't try and turn this into a funding issue, because it not.
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Admiteddly I'm only going by what I saw on television reports but it appeared the police had clearly beein asked to stand down and were watching the protectors runs riot torching police vehiciles and ransacking the place then threatening to break into police HQ.

I'd have thought at that point they'd be breaking out the tear gas, rubber bullets? I can only assume it's a response to the negative publicirty surrounding the Sarah Everard events and they'd been instructed to hold the line rather than confront the rioters?
 
Dolph said:
The idea that any act is acceptable as a protest, irrespective of the impact, disruption or danger it causes, isn't one generally accepted by the public.

I don't support the crime and policing bill, it goes too far, but if the public are asked to choose between the current lack of protection and Draconian protection, they may well choose the latter. Especially when those opposing it set police vans on fire.
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How is there a current lack of protection? The police will kettle protestors and make mass arrests, they've been doing it for decades so I don't see how there is a lack of protection.
 
silvagti said:
Admiteddly I'm only going by what I saw on television reports but it appeared the police had clearly beein asked to stand down and were watching the protectors runs riot torching police vehiciles and ransacking the place then threatening to break into police HQ.

I'd have thought at that point they'd be breaking out the tear gas, rubber bullets? I can only assume it's a response to the negative publicirty surrounding the Sarah Everard events and they'd been instructed to hold the line rather than confront the rioters?
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There is a book called "Good Strategy/Bad Strategy". In it is a statement about how folk rarely read the Strategy. You'll probably find in a quick Google the published police strategy for these situations which will then shed light on why they took that approach.

Instigating war fare by using the aforementioned techniques is not high up in the menu of tactics :p
 
fez said:
Do people genuinely believe that people are going to be slung in prison for 10 years for protesting. That if 50,000 people showed up to protest that we will have 50,000 people in prison for the next decade.
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So people should just ignore the law?

What was the point of it then?
 
StriderX said:
So people should just ignore the law?

What was the point of it then?
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No, they should educate themselves about it and write to their MP. They should organise peaceful protests about it if they want to when we are not in a national lockdown.
 
fez said:
No, they should educate themselves about it and write to their MP. They should organise peaceful protests about it if they want to when we are not in a national lockdown.
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It was a peaceful protest for many hours, then about 15% of the protestors took it up a notch and got violent.

"There were about 3,000 people at the protest when it started at College Green. That came down to about 400-500 who decided to take it in a violent direction outside Bridewell (Police Station).
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VincentHanna said:
It was a peaceful protest for many hours, then about 15% of the protestors took it up a notch and got violent.
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Thats a lot as a percentage. Imagine if that was scaled up.

Like most rules, they aren't there for the good guys, they are there for the bad guys. In normal times, protests are protests. As long as they follow the rules and are peaceful then have at it. Fill your boots. Most of the time its utterly pointless but thats your choice and right to protest. Now is not the time though.
 
fez said:
No, they should educate themselves about it and write to their MP. They should organise peaceful protests about it if they want to when we are not in a national lockdown.
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I don't understand the point in writing to MP's when they slavishly follow the party line.
 
What is it about Bristol?

For what it is worth, I am 100% opposed to the Government's efforts to stifle dissent.

Got a problem and can't afford to pay for dinner with Boris - straight to Jail for 10 years with you!
 
If more than a million people marching couldn't stop an illegal war, then what hope does anyone else have?

Try something new for once. Find something else that stands a chance of working.
 
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