3080ti 3070ti confirmed for April

Kaapstad · 22 Mar 2021 at 23:01

colincarter said:
no it doesn’t, half the memory is a big downer for a start, the 3090 is still the card to have

I’m glad I got a 3090 and I would again

I have 2 3090s and 2 RTX Titans all of which have 24gb of memory and none of them get anywhere near using even half of it most days.

simc1978 · 22 Mar 2021 at 23:05

mikehhhhhhh said:
Why would they have no warranty?

I thought that warranties were non transferable

Colonel_Klinck · 22 Mar 2021 at 23:47

simc1978 said:
Are you not concerned about buying used cards that have been thrashed 24/7 with no warranty?

Mining cards aren't thrashed. The core is underclocked. The memory is overclocked but it isn't hit that hard. The VRM is only running around 1/2 power. The fans I guess could be a problem but they only tend to run 70%. There is an argument that the silicon being kept at the same temp all the time is better for it than being ambient then 80-90c when gaming, then ambient again. My 3080 core sits at 45c when mining.

BlueInf · 23 Mar 2021 at 00:05

Colonel_Klinck said:
Mining cards aren't thrashed. The core is underclocked. The memory is overclocked but it isn't hit that hard. The VRM is only running around 1/2 power. The fans I guess could be a problem but they only tend to run 70%. There is an argument that the silicon being kept at the same temp all the time is better for it than being ambient then 80-90c when gaming, then ambient again. My 3080 core sits at 45c when mining.

How hot is your memory?

Figo · 23 Mar 2021 at 00:26

simc1978 said:
Are you not concerned about buying used cards that have been thrashed 24/7 with no warranty?

Id be more concerned buying a used card from a casual gamer to be honest. Miners and I guess enthusiasts too will be more likely to take good care of their kit.

For example my 6800 is starting it's ETH guzzle now and will do so till I'm done with work tomorrow. It's gonna sit at 50⁰C, running at less than half the max clock speed with an undervolt (around 1190MHZ Vs 2400+ on my gaming profile) and the GPU power draw will be around 115W.

It's doing work sure, but compared to a hard gaming session trying to eek out as much FPS as possible it's a walk in the park.

GreatAuk · 23 Mar 2021 at 00:43

Will be interesting to see how rtx 3080 and 3090 memory fares in the long term given it sounds like many people's memory will have been stuck at 110°C for extended periods while mining unless they really limit card performance or go to the trouble of changing thermal pads etc. Sounds like 3060 and 3070 shouldn't have the same problem though as they use gddr6 not 6x.

Based on that issue alone I'd be more cautious about used 3080s in future than 3070 or 3060's if I was in the market, but who knows it might turn out that the high memory temperatures don't result in any issues. Time will tell...

Grim5 · 23 Mar 2021 at 03:20

hobib_ali said:
3080 Ti just had their release dates and specs leaked online. According to Videocardz the Nvidia RTX 3080 Ti will get 10240 CUDA Cores and 12GB GDDR6X memory

its gonna be out by the end of April, im dreading to think what it will take to get my hands on one.

And the cost, apparently there will be 4 times as much as stock on the 3080ti compared to the 3080s but this will still not be enough.

It will be around $1000 usd so this might just stop the 3080 ridiculous prices or it may backfire and make the 3080ti even more expensive than the 3080....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7OvAHc9Pa80

the only way the 3080ti can have lots of stock is if 1) Nvidia EOL's the 3080 and EOL's the 3090

You'd have the 3070ti come in at $599 and then the 3080ti at $999 to $1199 and like I said the 3080 and 3090 would no longer be manufactured

Cheroulam Nab · 23 Mar 2021 at 06:51

Well this is good news but we all know what's going to happen in regards to supply and demand.

Joxeon · 23 Mar 2021 at 07:09

Is it even worth paying £1000 for one assuming that all the cards are available at msrp since it will be at best around 10% faster than a 3080 for around a 30% higher price.

4000 series are likely to be coming sooner this time as I very much doubt a super refresh is on the cards for ampere given the performance spacing atleast a the higher end.

chroniclard · 23 Mar 2021 at 07:09

Most lacklustre TIs ever?

Purgatory · 23 Mar 2021 at 07:10

I'll just leave this here and remind you in May to stop reading/watching clickbait articles based on no facts and only spread by people wanting to profit off your clicks. :rolleyes:

Dirk Diggler · 23 Mar 2021 at 07:55

Figo said:
Id be more concerned buying a used card from a casual gamer to be honest. Miners and I guess enthusiasts too will be more likely to take good care of their kit.

For example my 6800 is starting it's ETH guzzle now and will do so till I'm done with work tomorrow. It's gonna sit at 50⁰C, running at less than half the max clock speed with an undervolt (around 1190MHZ Vs 2400+ on my gaming profile) and the GPU power draw will be around 115W.

It's doing work sure, but compared to a hard gaming session trying to eek out as much FPS as possible it's a walk in the park.

The point is that casual gamers won't be doing a "hard gaming session" when they're sleeping or at work; the card will be idle and probably powered down. As for taking good care of the card, a casual gamer will be running it within its specified power/memory/voltage/temperature settings. How can that be considered as neglecting or abusing the card?

gpuerrilla · 23 Mar 2021 at 07:59

Dirk Diggler said:
The point is that casual gamers won't be doing a "hard gaming session" when they're sleeping or at work; the card will be idle and probably powered down. As for taking good care of the card, a casual gamer will be running it within its specified power/memory/voltage/temperature settings. How can that be considered as neglecting or abusing the card?

Point is electrical components often fail because of off/on and hot/cold cycles. By running equipment at a sensible level constantly often pans out better than the bedroom gaming kid cycle.

gpuerrilla · 23 Mar 2021 at 08:00

Joxeon said:
Is it even worth paying £1000 for one assuming that all the cards are available at msrp since it will be at best around 10% faster than a 3080 for around a 30% higher price.

I thought it was a given that 3fps was the metric between a 80>90 or the conservative 10%? This means the Ti will surely be 2fps and 7% no?

Dirk Diggler · 23 Mar 2021 at 08:08

Th0nt said:
Point is electrical components often fail because of off/on and hot/cold cycles. By running equipment at a sensible level constantly often pans out better than the bedroom gaming kid cycle.

I can't think of an electrical component I've ever owned that failed because I switched it on/off 2 or 3 times in a day. Electrical components are more likely to fail if they're used outside their tested & designed parameters. As for moving parts like fans, the fail rate is obviously linked to hours used.

BlueInf · 23 Mar 2021 at 08:18

Th0nt said:
I thought it was a given that 3fps was the metric between a 80>90 or the conservative 10%? This means the Ti will surely be 2fps and 7% no?

Yes but do you have the bragging rights?

We need the 3090ti to brag even more.

gpuerrilla · 23 Mar 2021 at 08:19

Dirk Diggler said:
I can't think of an electrical component I've ever owned that failed because I switched it on/off 2 or 3 times in a day. Electrical components are more likely to fail if they're used outside their tested & designed parameters. As for moving parts like fans, the fail rate is obviously linked to hours used.

You totally neglected the latter part then. Hot/cold.

gpuerrilla · 23 Mar 2021 at 08:20

BlueInf said:
Yes but do you have the bragging rights?

We need the 3090ti to brag even more.

No I think another 3090 is the best answer!

BlueInf · 23 Mar 2021 at 08:29

Btw the quality of stock thermal pads on the 3080FE and 3090FE is shocking.

gpuerrilla · 23 Mar 2021 at 08:40

BlueInf said:
Btw the quality of stock thermal pads on the 3080FE and 3090FE is shocking.

Did you take yours apart?

It has this woven fabric on top of the white goo. I tweezered out what I thought was a hair strand between a memory module and PCB to later work out its this fibreglass like weave they have in the silicon putty.

BlueInf · 23 Mar 2021 at 08:49

Th0nt said:
Did you take yours apart?

It has this woven fabric on top of the white goo. I tweezered out what I thought was a hair strand between a memory module and PCB to later work out its this fibreglass like weave they have in the silicon putty.

Yea I repadded both sides of mine.

Now the memory temp is down from 104 to 84 when mining.

Yea the fabric in the stock padding to keep it in place look like thick white hair almost.

If you repad, you need to carefully remove it, I used a plastic tool to remove most of it and then Noctua wipes to finish on both sinks and memory modules (but you can probably use isopropyl alcohol and a lint-less fabric, just make sure you take your time and do it slowly).

When you do the memory side, I used Gelid 2mm, make sure you cut the size of the chips, not the size of the sinks and then leave the film on one side, carefully put it on the top of memory chips and massage it a bit to give a good contact before to close the core side.

The first time I put the pads on the sink side and it didn’t help, I had to redo it again to get these results.

Backplate side was done with Gelid 3mm and helps when gaming but not so much when mining.