5900x; b550 vs x570

[EsaT]

how about the aorus elite x570 for just under £200?

X570 Aorus Elite is well balanced and competent board, with actually better chipset cooler than in higher up X570 Gigabytes. (less messing by marketroids)
It can also take third NVMe using PCIe slot adapter.
https://www.overclockers.co.uk/akasa-m.2-ssd-to-pcie-adapter-card-cc-008-ak.html

 

[Journey]

There is no value in B550 above £150.

 

[rare]

Ridiculously priced for IO limited B(asic) chipset.
You can use only one M.2 slot (M2A) without halving GPU slot's bandwidth to x8.
Also PCIEX4_2 shares chipset wiring with SATA 4 and 5 ports for last two PCIe lanes.

That's how limited B550 is for making higher end board.

x8 isn’t a restriction for any current GPU. So it makes no difference. In return you get 3x 4.0 NVME’s. Seems like a decent trade of to me.

 

[WhereHere1]

Ok so I need to go for an x570 to prevent the GPU from going to x8.

what I could do is just get an 2TB +1TB NVMe instead of 3 1TB.

can anyone recommend a board?

really don’t want to be going +£220.

I overclock my cpus usually, water cool them.

I was hoping to get a board that had a temperature sensor like the gigabyte vision.

I need NVMe boot as I won’t be using ssd’s.

 

[rare]

In that case get an x570 tomahawk. Has a pair of PCIE 4.0 NVME slots and a full 4.0 x16 slot. And 6 (from memory) SATA ports.

Although it’s worth noting the difference between x8 and x16 for a GPU is almost entirely irrelevant. The performance impact is negligible if any.

 

[EsaT]

In return you get 3x 4.0 NVME’s. Seems like a decent trade of to me.

Propably every X570 board can do that and without any bandwidth sharing.
That X570 Aorus Elite could take three NVMes with full four PCIe lanes for everyone, plus two other with 2GB/s bandwidth capability using x1 slot adapters.
B550 is simply outclassed by X570 in IO bandwidth.
No point in paying really high prices from mid level chipset.

 

[EsaT]

what I could do is just get an 2TB +1TB NVMe instead of 3 1TB.



I overclock my cpus usually, water cool them.

Always get the biggest drive where price per GB doesn't increase.
Simply no sense to fill slots/drive cages with tiny drives just for the sake of it.


And equally little sense in overclocking high core count Ryzens.
You would need some extreme cooling to push all core clocks closer to automatic boost clocks of the most loaded cores, which are the primary factor deciding gaming performance.

Though there are some utilities/methods.
https://www.guru3d.com/files-details/clocktuner-for-ryzen-download.html
https://hothardware.com/reviews/amd-power-curve-optimizer-guide-zen-3

 

[pc-guy]

Are you sure as i asked this and was told even the x570 useing 3 nvme would knock down gpu as you i thought it didnt but when i asked was told it did is it just certain boards it doesnt do this i even asked somebody who was useing 3 and he said it knocks gpu down to 8x on a x570 ultra board

On some boards you can have 4 NVMe full speed drives without having to knock GPU to x8.

my x570 unify has 3 onboard m.2 slots all PCIE4x4.

I can also put an addon card on the bottom x16 slot which is 3x4 speed to gain a 4th m.2 slot while GPU stays at x16.

x570 has more room to play as it has more pcie lanes.

 

[Alex h]

On some boards you can have 4 NVMe full speed drives without having to knock GPU to x8.

my x570 unify has 3 onboard m.2 slots all PCIE4x4.

I can also put an addon card on the bottom x16 slot which is 3x4 speed to gain a 4th m.2 slot while GPU stays at x16.

x570 has more room to play as it has more pcie lanes.

Thanks mate wanted the unify but no one got it in at moment

 

[pc-guy]

That is weird. That board was pretty available just a couple of month back. It was retailing around £240 mark. Now it all gone other than a scalper price of £290.

maybe everyone is building pc now motherboards are in short supply at least the high end ones.

 

[Alex h]

That is weird. That board was pretty available just a couple of month back. It was retailing around £240 mark. Now it all gone other than a scalper price of £290.

maybe everyone is building pc now motherboards are in short supply at least the high end ones.

Yeh I know just missed one the other day

 

[Cooler running]

I really don’t know which to get.
or what the main different is.

B550 is a little newer so has a few minor side-grades, such as the board partners putting 2.5 G Ethernet on some of them.
X570 has stronger cooling and VRM components, but it makes little to no difference unless you're going for same crazy overclocks. Some X570 boards also support 1st Gen Ryzen were fewer B550 boards do.
The determining factor for most people tends to be the layout of the PCIE lanes or the individual board IO.

would I see a difference with this cpu?

Probably not, unless you go for the real bargain bin B550's and throw a Ryzen 9 in it and expect to overclock.