nVidia changing their 30 series silicon

SkillTim · 21 Apr 2021 at 16:41

https://videocardz.com/newz/nvidias...e-new-gpu-revisions-with-cryptomining-limiter

I believe this issue hasn't been addressed by OcUK staff yet. Technically different products being branded as the same items will confuse consumers. I see lawsuits coming.

It would be nice if OcUK could release all their 30 series stock before they mix in the limited mining variants that are coming. Any comment from @Gibbo or @ScottiB ?

Wrinkly · 21 Apr 2021 at 16:44

Working link - https://videocardz.com/newz/nvidias...e-new-gpu-revisions-with-cryptomining-limiter

This means that the whole lineup is to feature newer revisions with cryptocurrency mining limiter. However, it should be noted that updated GPUs will also feature ResizableBAR support.

Odd way to mention RBAR, as if that was in question.

Aquaben · 21 Apr 2021 at 16:47

Won't be any lawsuits, people may be annoyed if they purchased to mine with but nowhere on any product pages (retail or manufacturer) does it state about mining performance as these are graphics cards being used for other purposes

Alt0153 · 21 Apr 2021 at 17:13

Aquaben said:
Won't be any lawsuits, people may be annoyed if they purchased to mine with but nowhere on any product pages (retail or manufacturer) does it state about mining performance as these are graphics cards being used for other purposes

if they purchased it to mine they should have bought a mining specific card is what i imagine the lawyer would say to them

five8five · 21 Apr 2021 at 17:31

SkillTim said:
Technically different products being branded as the same items will confuse consumers. I see lawsuits coming.

GPU firmware is continuously revised so "technically different" from the initial release - clockspeed & overclocking profile, TDP and fan curve changes for example. The boards are sometimes modified (V2 etc).

I can't see any lawsuits, just refunds to punters who wanted a mining card.

Cooler running · 21 Apr 2021 at 19:20

It's certainly a shame, the 3080 is the greatest bang-for-the-buck mining card since the Vega 56.

Vince · 21 Apr 2021 at 19:25

Cooler running said:
It's certainly a shame, the 3080 is the greatest bang-for-the-buck mining card since the Vega 56.

You forgot about radeon 7

Cooler running · 21 Apr 2021 at 19:29

Vince said:
You forgot about radeon 7

Radeon 7 was a fantastic miner, but it wasn't around for long. Also was rather pricey (especially factoring in resale value) for it's time, at least compared to the MSRP of the 3080 and Vega 56.

I'll certainly give you that if it was still widely available it would be selling like hotcakes at the moment.

Vince · 21 Apr 2021 at 19:31

Cooler running said:
Radeon 7 was a fantastic miner, but it wasn't around for long. Also was rather pricey (especially factoring in resale value) for it's time, at least compared to the MSRP of the 3080 and Vega 56.

I'll certainly give you that if it was still widely available it would be selling like hotcakes at the moment.

They go for crazy money right now, I sold a broken one for nearly £700. Im still mining on one because its a mining monster

Cooler running · 21 Apr 2021 at 19:37

Vince said:
They go for crazy money right now, I sold a broken one for nearly £700. Im still mining on one because its a mining monster

Just looked it up, I didn't think the GPU market could make any less sense, but there it is.

Gibbo · 21 Apr 2021 at 19:40

SkillTim said:
https://videocardz.com/newz/nvidias...e-new-gpu-revisions-with-cryptomining-limiter

I believe this issue hasn't been addressed by OcUK staff yet. Technically different products being branded as the same items will confuse consumers. I see lawsuits coming.

It would be nice if OcUK could release all their 30 series stock before they mix in the limited mining variants that are coming. Any comment from @Gibbo or @ScottiB ?

We don’t sell mining cards and we don’t promote or support mining on gaming GPU’s so we won’t be doing anything.

SkillTim · 21 Apr 2021 at 20:10

Entrepreneurs get a bad rap. The poor get offended by someone trying to make an honest living on their own. The rich don't want to let the initiative takers climb the ladder to be on their perceived level. I don't want to show off. I want to invest my money wisely and not have the fear of hand-to-mouth looming in future. Perceived nobility will fade away one day sunshine.

robfosters · 21 Apr 2021 at 20:17

SkillTim said:
Entrepreneurs get a bad rap. The poor get offended by someone trying to make an honest living on their own. The rich don't want to let the initiative takers climb the ladder to be on their perceived level. I don't want to show off. I want to invest my money wisely and not have the fear of hand-to-mouth looming in future. Perceived nobility will fade away one day sunshine.

You need to get it into your head that people who buy up multiple GPU’s for mining are not liked on here.

You’re not an entrepreneur either.

fs123 · 21 Apr 2021 at 20:22

This is bad news. Many gamers are mining when not gaming to recoup costs so this will be blow to anyone thinking of doing that. I certainly wouldn't buy a card that is gimped in such a way. The older cards will be highly valued now.

Shaolin Chicken · 21 Apr 2021 at 20:22

robfosters said:
You need to get it into your head that people who buy up multiple GPU’s for mining are not liked on here.

You’re not an entrepreneur either.

This

SkillTim · 21 Apr 2021 at 20:29

I didn't say what my main job is so you're not qualified to say.
Just because gamers are jealous and angry, that's their issue.
At the risk of psycho-babble, one cannot make anyone else feel something. Negative feelings come from the other person's insecurities. Blaming others for our feelings is negating our responsibility for said feelings.

varkanoid · 21 Apr 2021 at 20:33

Wrinkly said:
Working link - https://videocardz.com/newz/nvidias...e-new-gpu-revisions-with-cryptomining-limiter
Odd way to mention RBAR, as if that was in question.

Could be because the new 3080's are coming with the update BIOS that supports ResizeBAR already seen them in the FE thread I think it is.

imginy · 21 Apr 2021 at 20:35

fs123 said:
This is bad news. Many gamers are mining when not gaming to recoup costs so this will be blow to anyone thinking of doing that. I certainly wouldn't buy a card that is gimped in such a way. The older cards will be highly valued now.

Have you tried shopping for a card?

There is none is stock anywhere of anything. The last card I see in stock was £2700

Right now cards are not even getting to retail because board partners are selling them straight to miners.

This change can only be a good thing.

robfosters · 21 Apr 2021 at 20:42

SkillTim said:
I didn't say what my main job is so you're not qualified to say.
Just because gamers are jealous and angry, that's their issue.
At the risk of psycho-babble, one cannot make anyone else feel something. Negative feelings come from the other person's insecurities. Blaming others for our feelings is negating our responsibility for said feelings.

What are you on about?

imginy · 21 Apr 2021 at 21:08

robfosters said:
What are you on about?

I wondered that as well