You do realize Nvidia is only doing this to ensure the inevitable flood of used 3000 series cards when a mining crash happens will not demolish their next gen sales.
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You do realize Nvidia is only doing this to ensure the inevitable flood of used 3000 series cards when a mining crash happens will not demolish their next gen sales.
Doing what?
This guy sees using a GPU for mining as being an "Entrepreneur". Calls people jealous when told people like him are not liked in a gaming forum.
Precisely. It's like me buying a Mercedes C63 AMG and then going to a lawyer and complaining that Mercedes puts a speed limiter in the software that stops me going over 155mph on the motorway - the lawyer would turn around and say then you should have bought a racing car you ****
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this is not a gaming forum
Or he might see it as buying a VW Golf, and then finding the software has been coded the cheat the emissions tests.
This is real reason.
Nvidia been thro this once already.
Some one else mentioned, they want to mine to recoup cost for gpu, Well if gpu is no good for mining demand will go back to normal and price will drop.
In the end this is good.
If you want mining cards going forward then nvidia now have the CMP line that caters directly to miners.
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Haha, I love how people talk of suing and lawsuits. Your legal right is to get a refund or return an item in new condition.
Wow. Terrifying for OCUK!
Frankly, OCUK have handled this very well though; They're giving constant updates and are holding to original prices. If you get a card you pre-ordered from OCUK you're objectively lucky.
If miners stop buying GPUs, demand will drop.
Back to normal is totally different thing.
What people here and elsewhere seem to be ignoring, is that demand from just gamers is crazy.
The Steam survey pointed to an estimated 3.5 million GeForce 3000 series cards being in the hands of gamers (some of whom may mine, but a miner with 10s, 100s, or 1,000s of cards would not install Steam).
Sony have sold close to 8 million PS5.
Microsoft less, but still many millions.
Gaming (yes, sorry GPCGMR but console buyers are gamers too) demand is simply crazy.
Can't find any estimates of how many GeForce series 3000 cards are in the hands of miners, but even if it were a million I am not sure it's enough to change things quickly as I think PC gamers could easily have bought 4.5 million and still have a shortage.
As for Nvidia's motives: product segmentation is a favourite of theirs so forcing miners to buy mining-only cards is good for Nvidia. The fact the miners can't sell them later to games is also good for Nvidia less so for gamers (as buyers, although a glut of used cards wouldn't help those who want to upgrade and sell their old cards). In the meantime, the demand from both gamers and miners hasn't done Nvidia any harm, and keeps them from having to reduce official prices or even the price they sell to OEMs to give the OEMs a chance to actually release something closer to the mostly fictional RRP.
As for the Nvidia PR spin of being the gamer's friend: pull the other one!
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They go for crazy money right now, I sold a broken one for nearly £700. Im still mining on one because its a mining monster
Yeap, sold my Radeon VII back in November I believe (upgraded to the 3080). Sold the Radeon VII for more than I paid for it, absolutely crazy.
What I was trying to say is that it's mostly people who use GPU's for gaming who are in these forums.this is not a gaming forum
Awesome. The value of existing, unlocked GPU stock is about to go to the moon! 
I'm not really seeing any other upsides here though. Will this actually improve GPU supply? Or will GPU production drop to allow for CMP production? If the latter, then availability isn't going to improve. In fact, there could be fewer cards making it to retail. And hobbyists who would previously mine and game on the same card are going to need a GPU and a CMP...
Call me cynical, but all I'm seeing here is Nvidia playing the hero while seeing $$$.
I'm not really seeing any other upsides here though. Will this actually improve GPU supply? Or will GPU production drop to allow for CMP production? If the latter, then availability isn't going to improve. In fact, there could be fewer cards making it to retail. And hobbyists who would previously mine and game on the same card are going to need a GPU and a CMP...
Call me cynical, but all I'm seeing here is Nvidia playing the hero while seeing $$$.
You should have waited, even crazier!
I sold a Vega 56 last year for £200 and thought I'd mugged the guy off. 6 months later, it was I who was the mug as they are fetching over £600 in the same place I sold it.
Where Nvidia will upset consumers with gimped mining cards is when a casual gamer (like me) uses the card for a bit of extra income when I'm not gaming on it.
I have ONE 3070 that earns me a couple of bottles of wine a week. I'd be upset if I had bought a 3070 that unknown to me had been gimped.
If Nvidia want to stop cards going to miners they could do it, by simply not supplying distributers that sell to big mining groups. If Nvidia made sure that OcUK (and their competitors) that sell one card per household get priority the problem would go away largely.
But Nvidia just want to sell cards - end of.
I have ONE 3070 that earns me a couple of bottles of wine a week. I'd be upset if I had bought a 3070 that unknown to me had been gimped.
If Nvidia want to stop cards going to miners they could do it, by simply not supplying distributers that sell to big mining groups. If Nvidia made sure that OcUK (and their competitors) that sell one card per household get priority the problem would go away largely.
But Nvidia just want to sell cards - end of.
You should have waited, even crazier!
I sold a Vega 56 last year for £200 and thought I'd mugged the guy off. 6 months later, it was I who was the mug as they are fetching over £600 in the same place I sold it.
I sold a 5700 XT reference for £250. They now go for £800-£850 on eBay
Though to be fair, with the benefit of hindsight, selling the GPU last year was the right choice. The mistake was not sticking the proceeds in to Dogecoin
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Mining is a server load. You can't get angry when a consumer product can't handle server work. Just like you can't get angry when a consumer SSD falls over in a server.