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Sarge2255

Sarge2255

Sarge2255

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How does one person get their hands on all these consoles, then start, scapling ? Are retailers in on this? Looks very unfair and is there anything to do to stop this ?
 
All they need is a bot. I think they`re about £500 for two weeks unlimited use and the bot searches the internet and buys the products you want. So a bot is only worth it if you`re serious about scalping have a lot of cash..

I cant wait for the mining bubble to burst and scalpers make a loss on unsold stock.
 
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I honestly don't know whether the retailers care or not. They get to sell stuff anyway. Fact is that this could be controlled by the manufacturers and resellers. NVIDIA for example could open a database of customer addresses. Then the retailer just checks against the database that no more than X cards have been shipped to that particular address within X amount of time and refuses the sale if the numbers are bad. But they don't care so they don't do it.
Thing is THEY SHOULD care because long term this is damaging the gaming industry. Sooner or later people will give up and get real lives if this continues.
 
All sorts of stuff going on - working in logistics we've even had people come to the door offering to pay way over the odds to buy up pallet loads before they get distributed (so someone is doing their research). I've heard various stories of similar stuff from people who work in high street retail, etc. of people trying it on both legally and otherwise.
 
pp111 said:
I honestly don't know whether the retailers care or not. They get to sell stuff anyway. Fact is that this could be controlled by the manufacturers and resellers. NVIDIA for example could open a database of customer addresses. Then the retailer just checks against the database that no more than X cards have been shipped to that particular address within X amount of time and refuses the sale if the numbers are bad. But they don't care so they don't do it.
Thing is THEY SHOULD care because long term this is damaging the gaming industry. Sooner or later people will give up and get real lives if this continues.
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The same number if PS5s are getting to customers. Just a lot are passing through scalpers creaming off a profit first. In some ways it works in the favour of console makers as it gets people used to paying higher prices.
 
I agree with all.

Now imagine your a retailer. U sell stuff. U care little who buys it. Short term profits > long term brand image damage.
 
It's much easier and cheaper for a retailer to ship multiple items to one customer Vs sending to many people scattered across the country.

Stick 20 consoles on a pallet and ship it. That's a dream customer -10 minutes work at the depot and cheaper to ship. As opposed to spending a lot of time to packing product and arranging postage for individual people at different addresses. Logistics.
 
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Benass said:
I agree with all.

Now imagine your a retailer. U sell stuff. U care little who buys it. Short term profits > long term brand image damage.
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Shouldn't even damage your brand that much, it's not like there's a public register of who is buying your products.
 
The_Arbiter said:
Just imagine if people didn't buy these at inflated prices and waited. It really is people's own fault.

I know this has been said in every GPU thread so far :p
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The problem is that people are addicted to these things and then they fall in the hands of scaplers. It is hard to fight off addictions.

I see it as no difference from an addict wanting their dose. Just in this case the dose is a ps5 or gpu
 
CuriousTomCat said:
It's much easier and cheaper for a retailer to ship multiple items to one customer Vs sending to many people scattered across the country.

Stick 20 consoles on a pallet and ship it. That's a dream customer -10 minutes work at the depot and cheaper to ship. As opposed to spending a lot of time to packing product and arranging postage for individual people at different addresses. Logistics.
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A lot of retailers don't like it actually - retailers make a lot from addons, finance and product insurance, etc. they'd rather have 20 customers they can try and sell additional services to than one customer who almost certainly won't buy any of that. I suspect, though don't really know, it probably makes a mess with things like returns, etc. as well though not something I know much about.
 
It is a down side to try and sell extra services, but might be an upside on warranty returns. Doubble edge sword.

But i agree its better to have 20 customers with posabilitys to sell more things/services, than one narrow minded customer.
 
Some retailers are doing this by selling only in bundles both gpus and consoles

yes you can have a pa5 but only if you buy a game and additional controller with it


Picked up a Xbox series X the other day and was immediately offered £80 over cost for it before I even got out the shop And no I didn’t sell before anyone asks Ps5 is even more in demand it seems.
 
Sarge2255 said:
The problem is that people are addicted to these things and then they fall in the hands of scaplers. It is hard to fight off addictions.

I see it as no difference from an addict wanting their dose. Just in this case the dose is a ps5 or gpu
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Exactly this. Nothing wrong with people wanting these products, but the only reason scalpers still exist is because people are willing to pay stupid prices.
 
Mesai said:
Exactly this. Nothing wrong with people wanting these products, but the only reason scalpers still exist is because people are willing to pay stupid prices.
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I really can't understand why. It's completely beyond my humble brain. I mean right now I really need a powerful graphics card. I simply can't drive my monitor anything like well enough with the card I've got, but there is no way in hell I'm going to pay some crazy amount of money to a scalper. Apart from anything else, we are well on the way now to the 4000 series!! Don't people realise they are paying 2x, 3x and even 4x the RRP for a card that's going to be dated in two years? People work themselves up in to frenzy and MUST HAVE irrespective of cost. They're nuts!
 
Scalping stops if people stop buying, simple as that. Seems in 2021 people can't control themselves when it comes to buying consumer products anymore.
 
pp111 said:
I really can't understand why. It's completely beyond my humble brain. I mean right now I really need a powerful graphics card. I simply can't drive my monitor anything like well enough with the card I've got, but there is no way in hell I'm going to pay some crazy amount of money to a scalper. Apart from anything else, we are well on the way now to the 4000 series!! Don't people realise they are paying 2x, 3x and even 4x the RRP for a card that's going to be dated in two years? People work themselves up in to frenzy and MUST HAVE irrespective of cost. They're nuts!
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I'd definitely feel stupid paying 2-3x more for a product, but I guess some people can't wait or have too much money.
 
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Picked up a Xbox series X the other day and was immediately offered £80 over cost for it before I even got out the shop And no I didn’t sell before anyone asks Ps5 is even more in demand it seems.
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Was that a pre-order collection? £80 is a fair offer (from the person offering) given the console is good value for money, but i'd certainly not give one up for £80

I saw a comment on YT about Turboman from the movie Jingle All the Way. Made me lol
 
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