Following on from past thread about distance of telephone extension

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Hello all,

This is a message to @AWPC specifically (hello!).

You commented on this thread a few years ago: Will a very long telephone extension cable affect ADSL speed? https://forums.overclockers.co.uk/t...e-extension-cable-affect-adsl-speed.18853934/

I'm about to do the same thing and wondered if you could recommend your cable brand and may be where you got it from?

I'm building a home office at the moment, concrete being poured tomorrow but I've put plenty of ducting under for cables, including the telephone line. I'm planning on using the phone line for calls coming in and out, then connecting my router to it for internet. I have played with VoIP/SIP solutions but wasn't happy with the quality (or cost!).

Ideally I'm going to have a new phone socket installed in the new office, but if needs be (decided by the engineer) it might be installed at the house and I'd then run it through ducting to the office.

Cheers!
Chris
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Install your router at the master socket and run two lengths of cat5e/6 to your office use one for the router the other for the phone socket. You can also just terminal them both in Ethernet wall sockets the mini telephone jacks I forgot their name will fit in a rj45 socket.
 
The engineer will always want to install at the Master socket which will be in the house, you'd be better off install a network switch and/or an access point in the cabin via around 4x Cat5e/6 cables.
 
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Dg834man said:
Install your router at the master socket and run two lengths of cat5e/6 to your office use one for the router the other for the phone socket. You can also just terminal them both in Ethernet wall sockets the mini telephone jacks I forgot their name will fit in a rj45 socket.
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Thank you very much for that, I didn't know I could run cat for a phone socket, nice one, thumbs up!
 
Hyburnate said:
The engineer will always want to install at the Master socket which will be in the house, you'd be better off install a network switch and/or an access point in the cabin via around 4x Cat5e/6 cables.
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Thank you for that, very much appreciated. I did ring up the phone company I'm using and they said they don't mind putting it anywhere, even in an outbuilding - but that's words from tech support, not the actual engineer!
 
Unless you specifically want the router in the outbuilding there should be no problem running multiple cables for a telephone extension and from the router to a switch in the outbuilding and is generally a better way to do it - as above I'd also recommend sticking multiple runs of Cat 5/6 as it makes future proofing, etc. or dealing with any problems in the future so much easier.

You can use Cat5 fine, many longer telephone extensions use Cat3 but no reason to stick with that over 5.

If it is a longer run outside you might want to look at protection from lightning - either via the method of construction and/or Ethernet surge protectors or similar (not sure how that works with a connection for telephony).
 
Rroff said:
Unless you specifically want the router in the outbuilding there should be no problem running multiple cables for a telephone extension and from the router to a switch in the outbuilding and is generally a better way to do it - as above I'd also recommend sticking multiple runs of Cat 5/6 as it makes future proofing, etc. or dealing with any problems in the future so much easier.

You can use Cat5 fine, many longer telephone extensions use Cat3 but no reason to stick with that over 5.

If it is a longer run outside you might want to look at protection from lightning - either via the method of construction and/or Ethernet surge protectors or similar (not sure how that works with a connection for telephony).
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Thank you very much for that, I'm OK about the router being in the house, it's just the phone line I want in the outbuilding.

My original intention was to use SFP and SFP+ to and from the house (and have 2x cat cable for redundancy, but unplugged), to avoid any lightning / earthing concerns. Like you say, looks like cat will only work for the phone. Hmm!
 
I don't know how long your cable run is BTW but at one place I had a run of cat 5 from the master socket to a 3rd floor room (can't remember now if it was 18 feet or meters) where the ADSL modem was and the impact on the stats was fractional to the point it didn't actually make any difference to benchmark speeds, etc. or stability in any noticeable way.
 
Rroff said:
I don't know how long your cable run is BTW but at one place I had a run of cat 5 from the master socket to a 3rd floor room (can't remember now if it was 18 feet or meters) where the ADSL modem was and the impact on the stats was fractional to the point it didn't actually make any difference to benchmark speeds, etc. or stability in any noticeable way.
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Oh sorry, should have said. it's around 70-90 feet. Your example is pretty good though - and just cat5 is good enough? I've got a reel of cat6 already, for internal runs, might have to buy more though :(
 
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