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First GeForce RTX 3080/3070 LHR graphics cards go official

xPETEZx said:
People are always so short sighted. "Well it does not affect me now, so its good".
Thats why my somewhat silly extrapolations where to highlight that if we accept this kind of restrictions on products we buy, at some point it just might be something we DO care about.

Its all academic anyway. Unlike with cars, we have almost no choice. ITs nVidia or AMD or no games.

I admire the optimism from people tho... that think this will actually solve anything.
Remind me again how easy its been to buy RTX 3060s? Oh yea right... those are as hard to buy, and as overpriced as everything else.
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Well I'm saying choice is good. People have different competing needs means that what is good for one person might not be good for another person. Having multiple options allows you to satisfy everyone, but those who want to impose their choice onto everyone are just being selfish.

Thinking about this for a bit longer, I'm not even that convinced it'll matter in the long run. The problem right now is low supply of the wafers and high demand for them, coming from lots of different sources. More demand from gamers due to staying at home because of Covid. Global launches of new consoles, increased use of these chips in other devices like smart cars. Increasing demand due to mining, etc. If you limit the speed of mining on some LHR cards that mining demand still exists and it shifts that demand towards the old regular GPUs and the markets response to that will be for regular GPU makers to start bidding up the prices of the silicon itself. If you're TSMC and you have people bidding over new supply and some people are willing to pay more then future contracts will go to them, and so ultimately gamers are still bidding against miners, it's just at a different point in the pipeline.

It's very likely that this is more of a PR thing than anything else, just like the price fixing Nvidia did on the FE cards. It makes things look good on paper and is good PR but means very little to the average gamer who probably wont be getting their GPU any cheaper.
 
BlueInf said:
Since the 3060 has not been really cracked that remains to be seen.

obviously there will be more interest in cracking this properly
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its been cracked twice that i know of. 1st by nivdia at full speed, 2nd by lolminer on linux at a little less than full speed.
i think people will be trying very hard to crack all these other cards
 
LHR stands for Lite Hash Rate, which basically means that new GPUs will feature cryptocurrency hash rate limiter.:cry: GeForce RTX 3080 Ti :rolleyes:

Poor sods waiting in the queue may not be happy getting these cards?
 
think its kinda cool that you wont know which card your getting till you physically have it in your hands, would be insanely funny for a miner to buy 100 cards only to find out all of them are LHR:cry::cry:
 
shamus21 said:
Well i hope this makes a difference this time and not more Nvidia BS
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MCFC_ANDY said:
think its kinda cool that you wont know which card your getting till you physically have it in your hands, would be insanely funny for a miner to buy 100 cards only to find out all of them are LHR:cry::cry:
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:cry: they would not like that and tbh it is not fair on them. They need to be told what card they are getting, so they leave the gaming stock alone.
 
well I did see OC drop some 3070's today. so there is hope. Of course these were at a price equivalent to buying from auctions. So OCUK have join MSRP scalpers.
 
MCFC_ANDY said:
think its kinda cool that you wont know which card your getting till you physically have it in your hands, would be insanely funny for a miner to buy 100 cards only to find out all of them are LHR:cry::cry:
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Nvidia said yesterday that the new cards will be labelled as such.
Because these GPUs originally launched with a full hash rate, we want to ensure that customers know exactly what they’re getting when they buy GeForce products. To help with this, our GeForce partners are labeling the GeForce RTX 3080, RTX 3070 and RTX 3060 Ti cards with a “Lite Hash Rate,” or “LHR,” identifier. The identifier will be in retail product listings and on the box.
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https://blogs.nvidia.com/blog/2021/05/18/lhr/

Perhaps not all of the AIBs got the memo, or it's a last-minute change, or they simply reused old renders.
 
JediFragger said:
But they insta-sold, so what's the point in putting them up for less? We've yet to see a ceiling for these cards, they just keep selling out!! Gonna get real nutso soon...
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Yes, people are either desperate for gaming or willing to wait for the mining payback probably the later until LHR is std. Still a shame to See OCUK scalping 30% mark-up on Cards whilst people complain about the resellers.
 
Space71 said:
Yes, people are either desperate for gaming or willing to wait for the mining payback probably the later until LHR is std. Still a shame to See OCUK scalping 30% mark-up on Cards whilst people complain about the resellers.
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Very rich gamers or more likely only Miners
 
Flounders wont be LHRs.

n the past week or so you've been able to see NVIDIA board partners release their LHR edition of the existing product line. The LHR version has limited cryptocurrency possibilities due to hash rate restrictions.

That leaves open a discussion of the actual Founder edition cards from NVIDIA themselves. That question is now answered, NVIDIA will not release a separate edition of the FE products.

A spokesperson from Nvidia told PC Gamer that there will be no Founders Edition cards from the LHR variants. The Ti versions of the 3070 and 3080 that are expected on May 31 might probably see a Founders Edition again (yet that is unknown). The RTX 3060 non-Ti and the 3090, both of which do not have an LHR card, also have an FE card, although these are also extremely poorly available currently.

"Founders Edition is a limited production graphics card sold at MSRP," Nvidia stated, "and at this point, we don’t have plans to make versions with LHR."
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https://www.guru3d.com/news_story/n...ill_not_get_a_lite_hash_rate_limiter_sku.html
 
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