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Intel XE Iris

several vendors have the lowend card in preorder builds

only powered by the pci slot could be a nice option for a childrens computer in my house if it can play sims and planet zoo they are happy
 
I only think they're going after 3060 levels of performance (at most) with their first cards, which is OK if the price (& availability) are there, but its the software drivers which I fear will let the first release of cards down more than anything else.

Can be fixed over time of course but who is going to want to be a first adopter if they're going to get all sorts of issues with games, that aren't present with AMD/Nvidia.
 
With these cards it's all going to come down to driver support, something Intel has not excelled at in the past. A release date and some solid figures would be nice.
 
Cooper said:
but its the software drivers which I fear will let the first release of cards down more than anything else.

Can be fixed over time of course but who is going to want to be a first adopter if they're going to get all sorts of issues with games, that aren't present with AMD/Nvidia.
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pastymuncher said:
With these cards it's all going to come down to driver support, something Intel has not excelled at in the past. A release date and some solid figures would be nice.
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Intel release driver updates pretty regularly for their integrated graphics - maybe not quite as quick as AMD/NVIDIA, but certainly huge improvements compared to even Intel from 5 years ago.

E.g. 4 releases this year so far, and over 13 releases last year

https://downloadcenter.intel.com/download/30381/Intel-Graphics-Windows-10-DCH-Drivers
 
at the end of the day this can only be a good thing

if the lower end i5 cpus are anything to go by they might go all out to capture the £100-200 market a half decent sub £200 card will sell like no bodies buisiness
 
The other thing to consider is if AMD's FSR comes to fruition and works for all gpu's and is any good, this would also help lower end cards. They could kill it with £200 cards.
 
varkanoid said:
regardless the VRAM brigade wont be happy if the specs are to be believed.
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But who cares because most of them have been wrong on their claims about insufficient vRAM. Manufacturers pick appropriate amounts of vRAM for their graphics cards such that it's not a bottleneck for performance but also it's not over provisioned and unnecessarily pushes up the cost of the card for zero benefit. Reading the vRAM thread is extremely amusing because you get to see the thought process behind a lot of these people and it tends to be about what they believe they deserve, or some vague expectations that vRAM on cards follow some curve established in the past. Or that holding back on vRAM is done because manufacturers are being "stingy" lol, it's a clown show.

The mid range would be a great place for Intel to start because that's where a lot of the money is made and we desperately need more competitors in this space. So the goal should really be becoming profitable as fast as possible and the flagship killer GPUs that are harder to make profits on can come later. I genuinely hope Intel become an established long term player in this space. If I need mid range GPUs in future and they're on par then I'd preferentially buy from Intel, if nothing else just to encourage the competition.
 
Armageus said:
Intel release driver updates pretty regularly for their integrated graphics - maybe not quite as quick as AMD/NVIDIA, but certainly huge improvements compared to even Intel from 5 years ago.

E.g. 4 releases this year so far, and over 13 releases last year

https://downloadcenter.intel.com/download/30381/Intel-Graphics-Windows-10-DCH-Drivers
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I had high hopes for their drivers because of their iGPUs too, but after seeing the clusterflux that happened with the drivers for Tigerlake I say hell no, their first gen (and likely 2nd gen) products are gonna be painful. 100% avoiding it until they build up some history.
 
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