Caporegime
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Yeah, might be best if you didn't 
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Yeah, might be best if you didn't
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Generous amounts of other wine about here anyway!
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Mines a mead!
So I had an idea. Basically when you buy a GPU, you pay a big premium. But then if you still have that card after X time period, you get a big rebate. Like a cashback deal if you can prove you still have the card, so people that just buy it to resell don't get the rebate.
This means OcUK gets more cash up front with an associated increase in liabilities. As a consumer you are rewarded for being a 'good honest citizen' and not reselling your card.
Of course, it would be just another admin headache, how do you prove someone still has the card, they can probably download a pic of a 3080 with Hovis on top from the internet.
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Require them to take a video of the card maybe? Getting a bit convoluted I guess. I like your idea though.
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Yeah this is the problem, it would get too hard to administer, if volumes were high it would be a lot of effort to check up on. But the only way you can limit resellers is by heavily incentivising them to retain the cards for a year or whatever, so it would be like, OK you gotta pay £1500 for that 3070, but then you get £750 back if you can prove you still have it a year later (in a perfect world, maybe you get £250 back every 4 months or something). The numbers are just examples, OcUK would keep the funds in escrow and it gets drawn down on with claims, just like your mobile phone cashback where you send them your bill every 3 months.
we'd decided how we want it to work but getting it to work is not as straight forward and reliable as we'd hoped.
not great for mining, gamers back to work, so guessing market is cooling
Sales are steady, the Sapphire will run out over the weekend by the look of it. The other cards are picking up, but as Andy said, and as I've stated before, when the scalping/mining bots aren't looking at the product we can sell them predictably. On the flip side, when we had the 3070 (similar gaming performance) online earlier this week at just north of £1000, we sold two hundred units in a matter of minutes...that's the power of the bots and unfortunately, they react a lot faster than our website can, so we oversell and end up with yet another back order queue to manage...
That's why we find ourselves in this really difficult situation.
My average price on the 3070 Ventus for example has gone up by a little over £100 over the last month and every drop the get pushes it higher.
Cheers Scotti. Best make a decision sooner rather than later!
I think at £750-£800 is a little too much for me.
I built a new system in December but still using an old 1070 which is struggling a bit on 1440p/144
I also recycled my power supply but I would need to replace that getting a new GPU.
So thats £800 plus what, £150 for a decent power supply? That isnt much change out of a grand and thats a lot of money for not even top end card.
I stress, I am not having a go at OCUK for the pricing, just saying, as a customer right now, those prices are too high. Maybe if the card was £600/£650.
I mgith regret that going forward if available gets worse, we will see.
I built a new system in December but still using an old 1070 which is struggling a bit on 1440p/144
I also recycled my power supply but I would need to replace that getting a new GPU.
So thats £800 plus what, £150 for a decent power supply? That isnt much change out of a grand and thats a lot of money for not even top end card.
I stress, I am not having a go at OCUK for the pricing, just saying, as a customer right now, those prices are too high. Maybe if the card was £600/£650.
I mgith regret that going forward if available gets worse, we will see.
Overall I agree with you but it's still a lot better than the equivalent Nvidia.
Unfortunately, much of the price increases comes from the dog eat dog battle for VRAM and now that Nvidia and AMD (with their contract pricing) have stopped providing VRAM to their partners it has become even more cut-throat.
I do agree it is way too much, £750 retail for a 6700 XT is a joke, let alone £800 plus.
The fact is the card at £750 were barely breaking even on, the real sad thing is I don't think the AIB's are taking the mick with the pricing, the harsh facts are they are producing probably 1/10th of their normal volume, maybe 2/10th at best as such to stay in business they have to increase their profit margin to cover their overheads due to producing much smaller numbers.
The fact board partners are making 5700 XT's again says it all, they will make anything they can build at the moment to survive, NVIDIA partners have even started making 1030's with DDR4 because its all they have in the parts bin, but they are scrabbling to make anything they can to at least ship something and try to cover their overheads.
Thanks for being so open about the pricing and I know you have taken a hit on it. It was a big factor in me finally deciding to snap up one of the higher spec cards listed. I thought if I'm going to spend that much on a card, it might as well be one with a factory overclock and RGB fans!
It's been a long frustrating time and I still "need" another card for my daughter's build but at least she can get by on my 1060 for a bit.